I find the idea of a popularity contest to see whether someone is returning user bizarre. In fact, I find the whole idea of returning users bizarre. If the user needs to be banned, ban them on the basis of the edits they make, there is no need to speculate on whether they are returning. If they don't do anything worth banning, so much the better. Don't provoke conflict unless it is necessary - I think there is a word for that. Mark R
--- Delirium delirium@hackish.org wrote:
Anthere wrote:
Now, the question is (and that is a very good
question) : should
sysops take such decisions, or should they wait
for the AC to decide
for them ?
As I said above, I think the policy leaves room
for a group of sysops
to act temporarily, before the AC does.
Is it good ? *yes, because AC is acting slowly. Participants
are getting upset to
see reincarnations waiting for 2 months before
"judgment" by the AC.
It is no good that participants become angry. In
real life, there is
similar provision.... when someone is said to have
done something
deeply wrong and is considered a potential threat
to the society, he
may be put in jail before the judgment is made. He
should be put in
jail only if there is enough evidence naturally.
But this prevents
damage to the society, while giving time to judge
fairly.
If there is a mistake, we should deeply apology to
the wrongly-blocked
person, and re-consider how we are looking for
evidence for next cases.
*yes, it is also good because power should be in
the hand of people
first. Those doing the daily work. This is the
wiki way.
I agree with this. Perhaps if we had an AC filled with lots of paid employees or people with no other non-Wikipedia commitments it'd be better to have a dedicated investigative team to decide these things, but that seems pretty far-fetched. I think reaching a consensus on whether the user is a reincarnation, (the wiki way, as you aptly described it) is a better approach. I'm not sure if this should be formalized or left sort of informal, but the general guideline would be that if a pretty large majority seem to think it's a reincarnation, we should assume it is, while if there is widespread disagreement, then perhaps we can't assume it is.
-Mark
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