S. Vertigo,
I would be glad to provide quotations direct from the links that I cited. I hope that you will excuse the resulting length of this email. I will preceed each quotation with the URL so that it may be verified by each of you. Please note that the New York Times article may require a free registration, which if memory serves, may request an email address. Yahoo! might serve you well there.
I hope that Zero0000 will do the same, and provide his quotes as well.
I also hope that Zero0000 point out specifically where the article state that it is a correction or revision of the previous article, as Zero0000 claims, or that the article Zero0000 cites even refers to the same incident.
It is my sincere hope that the larger issue of the abuse of admin privs by Zero0000 will be addressed as well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3920181.stm A Palestinian teenager has been shot dead in the Gaza Strip in what appeared to be a clash between Palestinian militants and local residents.
He died in the northern town of Beit Hanoun, where militants have often launched missile attacks on Israel.
A BBC correspondent says militants may have been planning a rocket attack, which the residents opposed for fear of Israeli retaliation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/23/international/middleeast/23CND-MIDE.html?h... In recent days, the members of the Al-Za'nin clan have seen members of the Al Aksa Martyrs Brigade, an armed branch of Yasir Arafat's Fatah organization, using their olive and orange groves and the roads nearby for launching sites. This morning, when the four brigade militants returned to try to set down a launcher along the road running in front of the Al-Za'nin house, the family members spoke up in anger.
The family members were worried that Israeli troops would eventually retaliate against them, possibly even destroying their two-story stucco house. Throughout the West Bank and Gaza, Israeli forces, as a deterrent strategy, have often destroyed the houses of families and local people who cooperate with the militants.
According to Amna Al-Za'nin, the 35-year-old aunt of the boy who was killed, members of the family including three of her nephews argued with four militants, but the militants ignored their appeals. As the argument grew more heated, she said, three of the militants started firing in the air. One though fired off several shots directly at the family.
Miss Al-Za'nin herself was struck in the back, an 18-year-old nephew was struck in the ear, and a 20-year-old nephew was struck in the hand. But one nephew, Hassan Al- Za'nin, 15 years old, was hit in the back and taken to Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, where he died. Doctors at the hospital said the bullet penetrated the boy's heart.
"Even if we ask them not to fire from our land, that doesn't give them permission to shoot at us," Miss Al Za'nin said in a telephone interview from her bed at Alawdah Hospital in Jabalia in the northern Gaza strip. "It's very painful that a Palestinian bullet was directed toward a Palestinian chest." She described Hassan as the best student in his grade and said he was supposed to attend a party tomorrow where he was going to receive an award for academic excellence.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/455377.html (somewhat down the page)
PA teen killed by Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades An Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades cell killed a 16-year-old Palestinian boy in Beit Hanun on Friday after a row in which his family opposed the cell's attempt to launch Qassam rockets from their yard, Israeli security sources said.
According to a report obtained from Palestinian sources, the cell, comprised of six men, arrived in a van at the Za'anun family's Beit Hanun home on Friday morning. The militants then placed a Qassam rocket launcher adjacent to the family home, and one of the cell members opened fire on an armored Israel Defense Forces vehicle nearby.
Members of the Za'anun family came out of their house holding sticks and rocks, and tried to drive the Al-Aqsa militants from their yard, most likely fearing that their house would be demolished if Qassam rockets were launched from it.
During the clash, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades members opened fire, killing Hassan Za'anun and wounding three other family members.
The cell left the area following the incident, without firing the Qassam rockets.
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=66197 Sources in the PA report six PA residents, five armed, arrived this morning in the Beit Hanoun area of northern Gaza. The IDF is operating in that area, working to prevent Kassam rocket attacks into southern Green Line Israel. Two of the six got out of a vehicle and deployed a Kassam launcher. Persons in a nearby home came out and began pelting the terrorists with rocks, seeking to prevent a Kassam launch from their area, fearing IDF retaliation.
An altercation ensured, including the use of gunfire. A 15-year-old was killed and five other persons injured.
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Lance6Wins
--- "S. Vertigo" sewev@yahoo.com wrote:
I agree with Christian - its got the flare of a Hearst newspaper in the 1890's, but You seem reasonable enough to warrant not being blocked outright. Can you consider moderating your tone a bit - read the News style article.. for articles that depend on the original and new reporting of pro outfits, quoting the sources (until matters settle) is fine. To do otherwise is conjecture, regardless of how its put. See below *
Zero, I understand your frustration but IMHO would like you to report more facts and less characterization. Links to the relevant articles you mention would be nice too. So far Harry has provided several, and these would seem to support his version of events, albeit not his characterization of it...
*"The bbc reports the event as a series of differing reports:Some witnesses said the young man was killed by militants whom he saw burying an anti-tank mine near his house on a track used by Israeli patrols. Other reports suggest he was shot by Israeli troops. Our correspondent reports there was an exchange of fire between the residents and the militants. Several people were injured. In the past, ordinary people in the town, which lies close to Gaza's border, have said they support efforts to confront Israel. But our correspondent says they have also made clear that they feel their town is being made to bear too heavy a burden - that militant action is causing them to suffer too much at the hands of the Israeli army.
S
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