--- "steven l. rubenstein" <rubenste(a)ohiou.edu> wrote:
I am concerned with WHEELER's anti-semitism. He
has made some
offensive
remarks in the past, but ones I could dismiss as poor communication
in the
course of heated debate. Now he really has posted an ad hominem
non-sequitor on the following page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Early_National_Socialism/draft#personal_p…
In the context of a discussion with AndyL over the
relationship
between the
Austrian and Hungarian National Socialist movements, WHEELER posted
the
following:
And by the way since you want to declare a pedigree just because
your
relatives suffered under the Holocaust. [As far as I can tell, this
is not
true; Andy L always bases his arguments on historical documentation
-- SLR]
The Nazis also committeed atrocities on the island of Crete. My
uncle,
Sirodakis, was a great underground fighter. It was my island that
lead a
ferocious resistance to the Nazis. It was my co-religionists,
Catholic
priests that went to the camps as well. And it was Jewish
communists that
destroyed the Orthodox Church in Russia. Many a Christian died in
Jewish
concentration camps in Russian before the Nazis ever killed a
single
Jew. So don't cry buster and don't wave your victimhood in my
face.[[User:WHEELER|WHEELER]] 15:43, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Not only does this have nothing to do with the article, it is
simple, base
anti-semitism -- a simple association of bolshevism with Judaism
that the
Nazis themselves mastered and promoted. I think WHEELER should be
banned
for it, personally. At the very least it calls for a profound and
sincere
apology.
Steve
Steven L. Rubenstein
Associate Professor
Department of Sociology and Anthropology
Bentley Annex
Ohio University
Athens, Ohio 45701
Surely you are aware that he may be correct in stating that some jews
may have been communists (it was popular in the Soviet Union between
the wars) and that some of them may have been involved in, how shall
I say this, "purging" certain "christian" elements out of the New
Soviet Society.
On the other hand, he may not be. But for you to say that this did
not in fact happen means that your homework is rosk solid.
Calling them concentration camps may stretch the meaning of the word,
but in the very liberal sense, camps where people are concentrated
may be called concentration camp. Of course, it's a poor choice of
words, but it's not illegal.
By the way, my grandfather was sent to a German labort camp. He was a
captain in a french armor unit in 1940. So don't assume I don't know
what I am talking about.
Finally: calling for a ban does not foster wikilove, so please calm
down before clicking send and review your email to make sure it is constructive.
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