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Geoff Burling wrote: | On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Sascha Noyes wrote: | | |>On Saturday 17 January 2004 10:19 pm, Geoff Burling wrote: |> |>>On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Sascha Noyes wrote: |>> |>>>Hi. I'm not happy that it had to come to this. Mr-Natural-health has |>>>repeatedly been warned numerous times about not making personal attacks |>>>on other wikipedians. I am requesting a ban for this user on the grounds |>>>that he is not abating with said attacks. |>>> |>>>I have documented clear violations of basic wikipedia policies by this |>>>user on http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snoyes/sandbox |>> | [snip] | |>>>(...) At another time he has made |>>>an implicit threat to RK on his talk page by stating "The German Nazi |>>>from New York. I am proud of my German heritage, how about you?". |>> |>>I'm not clear how identifying one's home location is a threat. And having |>>read quite a few emails on this mailling list from RK where he accuses |>>people of being a Nazi for disagreeing with him, I read this as a sardonic |>>description. |> |>I agree with you that RK has at times behaved extremely badly on wikipedia, |>but that is not at issue here. I have stated that I believe that MNH's |>statement that he is a german Nazi from NY who is extremely proud of his |>heritage is indeed an implicit threat to RK: |> |>RK is a jew who lives in NY. MNH stating that he is a Nazi from NY implies |>firstly that he is ideologically motivated to kill RK, and secondly that he |>lives close to RK. | | | I think you are making a logical fallicy here. You assume that because MNH | calls himself a Nazi, therefore he wants to kill RK. As I argued, one can | describe oneself -- or another person -- a Nazi for many reasons. In my | last email, I suggested it was in response to RK's habit of calling anyone | he disagrees with "a Nazi"; another possible meaning would be the "Soup Nazi" | from the Seinberg sitcom, who is not clearly anti-semitic, merely despotic | in how he runs his restaurant.
However, when one thinks of historic Nazis, killing Jews IS one of the first characteristics to come to mind.
I do disagree with RK calling anyone he dislikes a Nazi, but that's a separate issue. If I told (picking random user names here) Angela that I thought she was a terrorist because she protected an article on someone else's version, would that justify Uncle Ed telling me he was a terrorist and was going to kill me?
Nathan aka Pak