Dante wrote:
With all due respect mav, this is bs. No one voted for the logo that is currently on the 'pedia.
Well I'm sure you already know that I have a BS in BS (in more ways than one!). ;)
Again, they voted for the *concept* - an unfinished puzzle ball that gave the impression of many languages (Erik kept on saying that the concept-implementations can and and should be improved). A great many people simply *hated* the particular PM implementation of that concept, so it was improved by a professional designer. Still the same concept.
Where was the revision process announced?
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2003-October/012323.html (wikipedia-l post by Erik)
And uh, the announcements page, perhaps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Announcements
Before that it was on the Main Page for a while but I moved it to the announcements page (one of the Nohat logos was already "live" at that point; see my complaint below).
Making announcements is what the announcements page is there for! Only very major announcements go on the Main Page. Improving the logo is not major enough to warrant that, IMO, but choosing the concept was.
Its also been on the Main Page of http://meta.wikipedia.org/ for some time.
Alas, it should have been also inputted into Wikimeida News.
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_News
I'm sorry if I don't spend as much time on the meta as on the Wikipedia proper, but there wasn't even
If you are concerned about meta issues and policy then you should pay attention to Wikipedia-l (*cough* Erik's post) and meta (Main Page link). If you are concerned with general Wikipedia-related issues then read the Wikipedia Announcements page (*cough* link to meta page on this issue). Also, the word "Announcements" is bolded on RC whenever there is a new announcement.
(as far as I can tell) a single mention on the Wikipedia proper that the logo was actually being CHANGED from the initial winner to the nohat version.
I was also a bit surprised that Nohat's logo found its way on en.wikipedia so fast. I would have preferred to have the nohat logo go onto test.wikipeida.org first so that people could see how it looked on a MediaWiki installation (same for the original PM winning logo). It is simply bad form and looks amateurish to keep changing the logo on a website with over 200,000 pages - as if some type of 'logo variant war' were going on. Even the most recent version of the nohat logo can and probably will be swapped for another, even better version.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
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