I'm glad there's another kid on Wikipedia.
Luckilly, my school doesn't block many sites, but because of this, it is slated to loose funding from the state. For schools blocking Wikipedia, I don't think they'd bother blocking only uncensored.wikipedia.org, anyway; they'd just block the whole thing.
If we made that new domain name, most of wikipedia would have to be transfered onto it. It would be pointless. Every country says that we can't do this or that, and soon Wikipedia is all in the uncensored domain. The only thing that might work is putting pictures potentially viewed as 'pornography' or just 'inapropriate' in general be put in the uncensored domain. Once again, that would be a POV decision, but I think we need to narrow it down to one specific category. Instead of having the link to the picture like there is now, it could just be added or removed automatically based on your prefrences. In the preferences box, you could have: [ ] Censor inapropriate content or something like that, checked as default. If a blocking company were looking at Wikipedia, they wouldn't see any potentially dangerous images. Checking the box could also censor curse words, like replacing fuck with f*** automatically. Of course, this isn't really censorship (just like the below suggestion isn't) because it can be easilly worked around> But Google and schools will see Wikipedia as a good, censored source. It would also eliminate the links saying "click here for the uncensored version", because schools wouldn't like that. If you wanted to be really complicated, you could make a new subdomain, u.wikipedia.org, that would use the same database but be UNcensored by default. To get past some filters, it would need to use a different IP adress, which would make it very complicated to implement. This whole thing is probably too complicated a sugestion and will never get implemented, though.
--- Geoffrey Thomas geoffreyerffoeg@yahoo.com wrote:
My school has a very ruthless blocking system by 8e6 technologies installed on their outgoing proxy. They block any page that might be offensive without considering the consequences. Once they even blocked the Science Olympiad home page shortly before Nationals - presumably because Geocities hosted it and also some other offensive site, and they blocked the IP. They occasionally packet-sniff the internet connection to find offensive sites. They block everything - even online games and the like. If Wikipedia starts showing offensive content it'll be the last day we see it at our school. There is a difference here between offensive-inappropriate and offensive-unpopular. The only ones of the latter they might block is 2600 or Join Al Qaeda Now.com.
I propose a new domain, set up like an international Wikipedia, uncensored.wikipedia.org, to contain all questionable material - pages France doesn't like, pages China doesn't like, pages filtering software doesn't like, etc. All questionable content can have the link '''An uncensored version of this page is available [[u:This page|here]].''' at the bottom, and pictures should be available by either [[u:Image:offensivepicture.png]] or [[Image:u:offensivepicture.png]] (whichever is easier for the software). Blocking programs/governments will see the rendered HTML link to <img src="http://uncensored.wikipedia.org/..."> or <a href="http://uncensored.wikipedia.org/..."> and block _that_ domain, not www.wikipedia.org (or fr., or zh., etc.). If we know some governments/schools proxy IPs, we could even filter all u: links out to save Wikipedia, and sensitive users (anonymous too, by default, if wanted) can check an option in preferences for either "Disable uncensored links" or "Do not display uncensored pictures" - the latter would give a mere link to the picture.
On a side note, do we actually need to upload pictures to every Wikipedia, or can we save disk space by, e.g., letting other language Wikipedias link to [[en:Image:logo.png]]? If we can, the u: would be an obvious solution - as easy as setting up another language. If not, and this is too hard to set up, u's Image namespace (linked to [[u:Image:]]) can instead be required to have [[Image:]] links to itself, and all users would act as if "Do not display" were checked. (See the Image page for the picture on [[Kitten]] for an example.)
Also, this server should be run on a different IP - either that one Bomis said it had (didn't it?), on Pliny when Larousse becomes the absolute server, or on ibiblio. IP blocking is as common as domain blocking, so a virtual host might not suffice. (Maybe you could just get another $15 Ethernet card into a server, let that take another IP, and only serve uncensored on that IP?)
--[[User:Geoffrey]]
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