On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:22:00PM +0100, Erik Moeller wrote:
Regarding your connected sysop request, I have no objections under these conditions, which every sysop should meet:
- That you are not an editor, but a moderator;
- That you do not use the "page protection" privilege in conflicts where
you yourself are involved; 3) That you only delete pages which are obvious nonsense ("aihwerjfoaijw"), or have been listed on "Votes for deletion" for a while without significant dissent.
I think none of these restrictions should apply to Zoe when she is dealing with Lir, and her actions pertaining to Lir should not be reversed by another sysop unless there is a consensus, not only that Lir made an "ok" contribution, but that he was showing proper respect for the fact that we all have to work together here.
If he is willing to cooperate, let's let him. If he wants to compete and call people names, we shouldn't have to sit on our hands and weep while we wait for Jimmy to reinstitute a ban.
I suggest that Zoe can be Lir's mentor; if Lir ignores Zoe, then only he is to blame for whatever action she uses her sysop powers for to deal with him. Not only is it poetic justice, but I feel Lir has progressed enough that spending time deliberately trying not to piss off Zoe would complete the polish on his Wiki-indoctrination and make him the valued contributor we all know he is capable of being.
Jonathan