Larry Sanger wrote:
In dealing with problem members, we should ask ourselves: are we shooing a wasp? Is there a better way?
The upshot of this post is that the wise way (wise ways are made to seem so with parables and the like ;-) ) is not to kick members out, and that there is a better way. (If your final question was not rhetorical, then what was the point of the post?)
My point is that better ways can be found, and have already been found, and more will be found in the future.
This means that what we just got done reaffirming, that we should sometimes kick problem members out, is not the wise way.
But goddammit Jimbo, yes it most certainly is. Sometimes you gotta use a nice big flyswatter and crush the wasp before it causes any further ruckus. We know this already, from experience.
You have to use the flyswatter and crush the wasp *if that's the only tool you have*. If ways can be found to get the wasp to agree to leave, with less fighting and fussing, then that's better for us.
--Jimbo