On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Peter Körnerosm-lists@mazdermind.de wrote:
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason schrieb:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Peter Körnerosm-lists@mazdermind.de wrote:
Hello OSM folks
For the integration of osm into the wikipedia there will be localized maps in all languages that have their own wikipedia. The problem is, that a lot of countries are not translated yet.
To get an overview over the status and make translating those countries more easy, I created a tool that can be found at
http://cassini.toolserver.org/~mazder/multilingual-country-list/
I'd like to encourage everyone to spend some time making translated maps better. Comments welcome!
That's very useful, and it's nice to see the toolserver being put to good use.
One thing that would be very useful is if you would offer a .osm file for download which would include all the place=country nodes so that one could mass-translate them in e.g. JOSM. You can do this making an OSM file whose contents are a concatenation of the various http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/ID where ID is the node ID.
I also thought about implementing inline-editing by just clicking the wrongly translated name and do the commit to the api right from the Toolserver. This way also the MySQL-DB behind the lists would be up2date instantly.
I think tools such as this one would be most useful if they do directly commit to the API and offer an editing interface. As has been pointed out (in the "i18n-rich areas on the map" thread on osm-talk) the current editors for OSM data offer a very lousy interface if all you're interested in is contributing translations, since they aren't optimized for that at all.
So direct uploading would be nice, whether that happens with a single dedicated bot user or through proxying of OSM user accounts (e.g. via the still-to-be-merged oauth stuff) would certainly be nice.
Don't you fear corrupt mass-imports as we got just some weeks ago? (see http://cassini.toolserver.org/~mazder/duplicate-countries/)
IIRC The corrupted mass-import happened because someone ran the bulk_upload.py script on an OSM file without understanding how the bulk-upload tool worked. Granted if you offered an OSM file with all the place=country nodes you'd be morke likely to get that sort of (and other kinds) of sillyness as a result.
I'd much rather see a click-through launchpad-like interface to translate arbitrary objects :)