a few reflections from the swedish horizon, after a few days under the WMF
We have had an influx of serious, logged-in contributors, mainly from
Wikipedia in swedish, but also a couple of new stars. That's great!
We have also had a number of serious anonymous edits. That's even better!
Of course, we have also had our fair share of vandalism, both anonymous as
well as logged-in users. That's less nice, but it was expected.
So, thanks to all involved, it seems we're all well on our way!
Judging by the serious edits we have had on sv:, I have come to realise
that two guidelines/policies are crucial to us in this phase of the
project, namely "Welcome, Wikipedians" and "How to re-use Wikipedia
content". The latter guideline has a correspondence on Wikitravel Shared (
http://wikitravel.org/shared/How_to_re-use_Wikipedia_content), but I do not
see any current correspondent on any of the other language versions, except
I checked the language versions (i.e. the ones currently online) and it
seems that it:, nl:, pt: and es: lack "Welcome Wikipedians". All language
versions except sv: seem to lack "How to re-use Wikipedia content".
I'd like to suggest that anyone with lingustical capability, active on the
language versions without these two guidelines, translate these guidelines,
since it will be of great help to you. On sv:, we also added the
aforementioned guidelines to our welcome message, in the hope that it may
reduce the amount of explanation needed. It seems to work!
All the best from a snowy and cold Sweden,
We've been adding our press clippings to our normal location on Meta and
you can see a lot of coverage of Wikivoyage:
Have you all been keeping a press clipping list somewhere?
If you're inclined, can you add coverage you saw that might not be on our
list on Meta? Particularly in languages that are not English?
Global Communications Manager
+1.415.839.6885 ext 6635
I am Nicolas Raoul, 8 years of wiki travel/voyage editing.
I just released this non-official Android app (free, open source):
It lets people read Wikivoyage even when offline.
Like a paper guidebook, but stored in your phone.
At first run, it downloads OxygenGuide (a ZIP of all Wikivoyage text, 80MB).
Then you can enjoy the articles offline.
Bonus: Offline is much faster, because data is loaded from the SD card, not
from the Internet.
Offline is vital for travellers, because roaming is expensive.
Wikimedia's official app is great, but not offline, making it no-go for
most travellers... there is a "Save page" feature, but it is difficult to
know in advance every place a travel you lead you to. Imagine selecting and
cutting pages from a paper guidebook one-by-one... rather take the whole
book if it is not heavy, right?
Special:Book generates monolithic EPUB files with images, too heavy for a
phone if you select a lot of articles.
The app is functional, but ugly and many features could be added.
If anyone is interested, you're very welcome to join the team :-)
If Wikimedia wants to overtake the app, I would be flattered!
If I violate any trademark or license, please let me know.
Also, any feedback is very welcome!
By the way, non-Android users can also copy the HTML articles manually to
their phone/reader/laptop: https://code.google.com/p/oxygenguide
We could use between words we do not want individually wrapped
in site notice, eg in the link text "Migrate your account" -->
"Migrate you account". I just now posted this idea at:
Line wrapping can also be controlled via CSS's white-space:nowrap
property. However, is sometimes just easier to type. Right?
Anyway, should an admin wish to update the site notice to control line
wrapping with this, you will find the wiki markup ready to cut and
paste on the above talk page.
Today I started a wiki page to address problems with Wikivoyage's
Table of Contents (TOC) boxes that appears at top of Wikivoyage pages
and provides links to the page's sections, here:
Please read it and see what you can figure out. And feel free to
update that wiki page with your findings, notes, suggestions, etc.
It made banners cold feeted and made the issue hot
With Best Wishes
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> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:56:51 +1100
> From: Ian Sergeant <inas66(a)gmail.com>
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> In this case I'm not even convinced there was anything much to revert.
> only edits the user made were to his own talk page, and a clear mistake in
> editing a policy page. I'm not sure there was any real need for any kind
> of block or ban.
> Personally, I'd have given them a welcome along the lines of
> and hoped that their edits to the guides were constructive.
> I'm a bit concerned about the undocumented appeal policy that seems to
> crept in too.
> On 21 January 2013 13:34, Peter B Fitzgerald <pbf5(a)georgetown.edu> wrote:
>> Our practice for this has been to just revert, leave a talk message, and
>> if necessary, blacklist the spammer's url. We've actually never
>> indefinitely blocked anyone except for doppelgangers and spambot created
>> accounts. The more exhaustive guidance is at or linked from
>> to handle unwanted
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Snowolf <ml(a)snowolf.eu> wrote:
>>> I should also add that the user was not indeed banned but rather
>>> indefinitely blocked.
>>> On 2013-01-21 0210, Snowolf wrote:
>>> > Run of the mill spammer, replaced normal useful texts with spam to his
>>> > own website and ignoring warnings, not sure what the big deal or
>>> > problem
>>> > is. How would you suggest it be dealt otherwise?
>>> > Snowolf
>>> > On 2013-01-21 0159, Ian Sergeant wrote:
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> What's going on here?
>>> >> http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SheikhTravel
>>> >> It appears we got one of our first actual user indef ban without so
>>> >> as nomination?
>>> >> I don't want to tread on toes, but this seems totally out of line
>>> >> with
>>> >> current policy..
>>> >> Ian.
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