Per https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Logo_announcement, WMF has
received a cease-and-desist from the World Trade Organization regarding the
Wikivoyage logo. WTO has generously given us until the end of July to
change the logo. Per WMF legal, we cannot use any derivative of the current
logo, and I'd add to that that we really ought to stay away from the WTO
red-green-blue. (There's also the added bonus that WMF projects that use
the red-green-blue scheme are almost universally meta-projects, not content
projects.)
Please join the discussion, as we need to move quickly on this. And start
brainstorming logo ideas!
Powers &8^]
We are presenting on the 10th. Would be great to have your help. Look
forwards to meeting.
James
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Andrea <andyrom75(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> James,
> Shame on me but I've just noticed now this email.
> I'll be glad to help the team in reviewing the presentation and its
> content.
>
> When it's planed the "show"? If it's not on the very first day, we can
> have time to site together to work on it.
>
> Let me know,
> Andrea
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:52:57 -0600
>
> Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Fwd: Wikimania 2013 submission acceptance
> letter
> From: jmh649(a)gmail.com
> To: andyrom75(a)hotmail.com
> CC: nemowiki(a)gmail.com; wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
>
> Okay we have a spot to give a talk at Wikimania.
> https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Creating_a_new_sister_…
>
> While I am happy to help I do not think I am best positioned to speak on
> Wikivoyage. Would like to invite all to begin collaborating here on google
> docs on this 25 minute presentation.
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/14PL0DW3_qKWeKLDTc_WwtKjIhNggfyNWtru…
>
> James
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Andrea <andyrom75(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
> nice to "virtually" meet you.
> As said by Nemo, I'm a sysop of the Italian version of this young
> wiki-project.
> As you can see by my (and my bot) contribution I'm very enthusiastic of
> this project because it touches two of my main interests in life: travel
> and computer science.
>
> Last year, during my Indian holiday preparation I've contributed a lot as
> anonymous to the English version of wikitravel because unfortunately I've
> noticed the big gap of completeness and usefulness between the English and
> Italian versions. Once I've known that WM has decided to "adopt" this
> project I've decided to do my all best to try to cover this gap.
>
> Since now I've focus my attention on tiding-up the site but once it will
> be "done", it would be nice to think on some improvement like the en:voy
> and de:voy are already doing.
>
> I'll look forward to meet you and all the guys involved in wikivoyage.
> Andrea
>
> > Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 08:53:02 +0200
> > From: nemowiki(a)gmail.com
> > To: wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > CC: jmh649(a)gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Fwd: Wikimania 2013 submission acceptance
> letter
>
> >
> > James Heilman, 20/05/2013 15:51:
> > > Go news, we have been accepted for a talk at Wikimania.
> >
> > WMIT has also just (re)assigned a scholarship to Andyrom75, it.voy sysop
> > and bureaucrat. https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Andyrom75
> > I'm sure you'll meet. :)
> >
> > Nemo
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Wikivoyage-l mailing list
> > > Wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
> > >
>
>
>
>
> --
> James Heilman
> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
>
> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
>
>
--
James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
I work for an Indian OTA based out of Bangalore. We have a travel planning product called Small World (www.cleartrip.com/smallworld) that aggregates content from a number of Free sources in addition to some proprietary sources we have tied up with. The travel content content includes descriptive guides such as: http://www.cleartrip.com/smallworld/new_york/4fcd2082e44d78692f187dc9/guide We fetched all our guide content from Wikivoyage (completely moved over from WT a while back). As per our understanding of the attribution requirements, we have inserted the following text "The above text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/) from Wikivoyage. A list of contributors (http://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=New%20York%20(state)&action=hist…) is available at the original article (http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/New%20York%20(state)) on Wikivoyage." with the links to WV article and the full list of con
tributors - which I see also include the original WT authors for old articles.
We recently received an email from WT's legal team telling us that the license requires us to attribute WT. The letter goes on to say: "In view of the foregoing, Internet Brands, Inc. hereby demands you cease and desist copying content from Wikitravel.org (http://Wikitravel.org), unless you provide proper attribution to wikitravel.org as the original content creator."
We do not copy WT content and have no intention of doing so. So this is a bit strange. While we are getting legal opinion on this matter, my questions for the WV community:
1. Why do WV articles attribute WT?
2. Does WT own the copyright for the content that was published till the time of the fork? It was my understanding the the original authors owned the copyright and the history file was the way for providing attribution.
3. Are there any known cases of such WV content usage that "attribute" the parent WT article in addition to WV?
Regards,
Sriram
I just noticed that WT has copied our new main page redesign. They have
added a number of other cool features that maybe we should borrow from as
well?
--
James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
Hello all
Just seen that Skobbler, a great map app that uses OpenStreetMap is
starting to use Wikitravel over Wikivoyage for their travel guides in the
app, is anybody aware as to why they would do this?
Associated article:
http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/11/destination-skobbler/
Okay we have a spot to give a talk at Wikimania.
https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Creating_a_new_sister_…
While I am happy to help I do not think I am best positioned to speak on
Wikivoyage. Would like to invite all to begin collaborating here on google
docs on this 25 minute presentation.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/14PL0DW3_qKWeKLDTc_WwtKjIhNggfyNWtru…
James
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Andrea <andyrom75(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi James,
> nice to "virtually" meet you.
> As said by Nemo, I'm a sysop of the Italian version of this young
> wiki-project.
> As you can see by my (and my bot) contribution I'm very enthusiastic of
> this project because it touches two of my main interests in life: travel
> and computer science.
>
> Last year, during my Indian holiday preparation I've contributed a lot as
> anonymous to the English version of wikitravel because unfortunately I've
> noticed the big gap of completeness and usefulness between the English and
> Italian versions. Once I've known that WM has decided to "adopt" this
> project I've decided to do my all best to try to cover this gap.
>
> Since now I've focus my attention on tiding-up the site but once it will
> be "done", it would be nice to think on some improvement like the en:voy
> and de:voy are already doing.
>
> I'll look forward to meet you and all the guys involved in wikivoyage.
> Andrea
>
> > Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 08:53:02 +0200
> > From: nemowiki(a)gmail.com
> > To: wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > CC: jmh649(a)gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Fwd: Wikimania 2013 submission acceptance
> letter
>
> >
> > James Heilman, 20/05/2013 15:51:
> > > Go news, we have been accepted for a talk at Wikimania.
> >
> > WMIT has also just (re)assigned a scholarship to Andyrom75, it.voy sysop
> > and bureaucrat. https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Andyrom75
> > I'm sure you'll meet. :)
> >
> > Nemo
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Wikivoyage-l mailing list
> > > Wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
> > >
>
--
James Heilman
MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com