Re: [wikimedia-pt] Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 - Europe?

-- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt/ Béria Lima escreveu: > Bem, para fazermos qualquer coisa, precisamos de: > > * Organizar a nossa base de dados conforme o padrão da Wikipédia em > neerlandês. > * Actualizar a base de dados de todos os monumentos classificados (isso > se formos usar somente os classificados, podemos escolher fazer com > todos os da base de dados do IGESPAR, mas isso é coisa a discutir) > > Entretanto convinha que isso ficasse pronto o mais cedo possível (no fim > de Março no máximo) para que pudessemos passar para as coisas mais > "evento" do trabalho. > > Eu *não posso* mexer nisso até o aniversário porque tenho milhares de > coisas para fazer até lá, mas se tu (ou outra pessoa) de > disponibilizasse para contactar o IGESPAR e conseguir uma base de dados > de todos os monumentos, seria mesmo muito bom. (com uma base de dados > pronta, um bot qualquer consegue criar as listas) > > Aceitas fazer isso? > _____ > Béria Lima (Beh) > > > No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2010 15:48, Projecto X > <mvasconcellosx@gmail.com mailto:mvasconcellosx@gmail.com> escreveu: > > Olá, Béria > > Estou interessado em colaborar nessa organização. > > João Miguel > > No dia 14 de Dezembro de 2010 21:34, Béria Lima > <beria.lima@wikimedia.pt mailto:beria.lima@wikimedia.pt> escreveu: > > Olá povo. > > > Lembram-se da ideia de fazer um concurso de fotografias para o > nosso aniversário de 10 anos? Que tal fazer isso a nível Europeu > - mas somente em Setembro. > > A idéia é da Wikimedia Netherlands - Effeietsanders (aka > Lodewijk ) contactou-me no IRC para falar sobre o projecto, e > hoje mandou o mail anexo a Lista Interna da Wikimedia. > > Para participarmos precisamos primeiramente de: > > Fazer o levantamento de todos os monumentos que podem entrar na > competição (Usar a base do IGESPAR pode ajudar) mas temos que > fazer a lista usando esse sistema: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_syst.... > Já temos uma lista base: > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_patrim%C3%B3nio_edificado_em_Portugal > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_patrim%C3%B3nio_edificado_em_Portugal > mas ela precisa ser convertida para o sistema e actualizada. > > O resto do "how-to-do" está aqui: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem > > Como esse é um projecto qeu vai dar um certo trabalho para > organizar, convinha comecar a fazê-lo já em Janeiro após o > aniversário. > > Algum interessado? > _____ > Béria Lima (Beh) > (351) 925 171 484 > > > 2010/12/14 Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org > mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> > > *Summary of this email *(sorry for long text): We did Wiki > Loves Monuments (WLM) 2010 in the Netherlands, we would like > to do Wiki Loves Monuments again in 2011, but now in Europe. > This is only possible when many chapters participate, > therefore this e-mail. To be clear: this event will only > happen on a European level if there is sufficient chapter > participation to combine efforts. *Please feel free to > forward* to whomever you find appropriate. > > You might have heard before about Wiki Loves Monuments 2010 > in the Netherlands. It was a highly successful photo > scavenger hunt with 12.500 submissions and over 250 > participants[0]. We recently completed a post mortem of this > event with a more extensive description and analysis [1]. > However, there are still many monuments in the Netherlands > which can be photographed, so we are considering another run > for next year - but then in a European context. Below we > will explain a bit how we got where we are, what we have in > mind, and what you could expect. > > So how did this all start? At the Dutch Wikipedia we have > the windmill project. One of the main goals was to get an > article with an image for every windmill in the Netherlands. > Lists were created of windmills per province and statistics > were made on a regular basis to track progress. This > approach worked very well and made it possible to tackle a > big problem; All the windmills have an article now. > > Some volunteers, in cooperation with the chapter, managed to > get a dataset of all "Rijksmonumenten" (Dutch national > monuments - 60.000 buildings/objects with some historical or > cultural relevance) from the "Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel > Erfgoed" (Dutch national heritage organisation, RCE). This > marked the birth of the "Rijksmonumenten" project. The > project uses the lessons learned in the windmill project. > The data from the RCE was converted into lists by location > and put on the Dutch Wikipedia. The community started > improving the lists by adding missing information or adding > photo's. > > In June 2009 Wikimedia Nederland ran Wiki Loves Art /NL [2] > : A photo scavenger hunt in more than 40 museums. Also quite > successful (5.400 photos), but much more work intensive > because you need to keep contacts with all the museums and > usually museums are further away from people's homes than > the nearest monuments. > > For 2010 we were looking for a nice topic for a photo > competition. The "Rijksmonumenten" project was running very > well so we decided to organize Wiki Loves Monuments to give > this Wikipedia project a boost. > > So, what would a European WLM most likely look like? Let me > give you an idea of what we are thinking of, changes are > open for debate of course. Trying to incorporate the main > lessons from last year in the Netherlands into a European > model, we think it might work best if Wiki Loves Monuments > is organized on a national level primarily, but with > cooperations, shared resources and international prizes on a > European level. The national contests do not have to be > identical, but some consistency would be practical. We are > not sure yet what countries would be most successful, but > our initial hope would be EU chapter countries and Switzerland. > > Basically, Wiki Loves Monuments would run 1-30 September > 2011, and participants would be allowed to submit photos of > monuments which are part of the object list. This object > list includes the address and ideally geo-coordinates of all > monuments which are allowed to participate. In each > participating country there would be some prizes available, > to be awarded by a jury for that country. The top-X of each > could be competing for European prizes. > > You can find more information on how WLM 2010 was organized > on the post-mortem [1]. That also lines out in more detail > how much work it would be, and what the positive impact > could be. > > Most of the local work would be to get a database with the > objects, create object lists from that (possibly Dutch > volunteers could support you with that, they have the > experience [3]) and get the community involved on that. You > would need to get communications going, both external to the > press (press releases etc) as to participants (have a clear > website in your language(s) with explanation, rules etc), > find a jury and prizes for them to award. We can help each > other with example press releases, best practices, template > and list examples and community motivation. > > So, what to do when you like this idea? Well, it would be > good to first of all check with your collegues (at the > board, other members, community) what they think of it. You > probably need several people to run such a competition over > time to some extent. Next step would be to do some analysis > on your local situation: who would be good partners (who > keeps the lists of monuments?) for you, how many monuments > are there in your country, are they well spread? What > information/photos are already available of it roughly? Are > there community members involved in that kind of topic? > Definitely read the post-mortem and some relevant links from > there [1]. > > For the time being, we registered www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/ and are in touch with > CARARE and Europeana (European cultural heritage > organizations) - who seem to be interested in laying > contacts with local cultural heritage organizations. > Hopefully that helps them to realize the European context > and impact this could have. The most important partner in > each country would be the one that governs the database with > all monuments, and could release that to you. This > database/list is crucial for the success of such an event. > > Please inform us (ideally through internal-l) when you would > be interested in joining in such European event, if there is > enough enthusiasm, we will create a special (easy to join) > mailing list to coordinate efforts to allow more volunteers > to join in the discussions. We already took the liberty of > discussing this with some other chapters, and are hopeful > that it will actually get to a first grand chapter > cooperation program. Of course this does not mean you are > bound, but that you think you would like to participate. You > can also join #wikilovesmonuments > http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=wikilovesmonuments on > freenode irc of course if you like. > > With kind regards, > > Maarten Dammers (user:Multichill) > Lodewijk Gelauff (user:Effeietsanders) > > [0]: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments > [1]: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem > [2]:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Art_Netherlands > [3]: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_syst... > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-l mailing list > Internal-l@lists.wikimedia.org > mailto:Internal-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia Portugal > http://www.wikimedia.pt http://www.wikimedia.pt/ > ______________________________________________ > WikimediaPT mailing list > WikimediaPT@lists.wikimedia.org > mailto:WikimediaPT@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediapt > > > > > -- > João Miguel Vasconcellos > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia Portugal > http://www.wikimedia.pt > ______________________________________________ > WikimediaPT mailing list > WikimediaPT@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:WikimediaPT@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediapt > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia Portugal > http://www.wikimedia.pt > ______________________________________________ > WikimediaPT mailing list > WikimediaPT@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediapt