FYI.
Regards,
Ted Chien
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寄件者： "Rand Montoya" <rmontoya(a)wikimedia.org>
日期： 周六, 9 月 11 日, 2010 年 1:15 上午
主旨： [Chapters] Fwd: Fwd: Chapter Fundraising Survey...for Chapters
收件者： <chapters(a)wikimedia.ch>, "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)" <internal-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
::poke poke::
Hey All--
Lots of chapters have responded, however, we would love to get many
more. Are there any Board members from the Chapters below that want to
engage in their 'executive oversight' duties and poke the right people
at the Chapter to respond?
The more chapters that respond, the better WMF will be able to plan
fundraising activities to support the Chapters. In addition, getting
good contact information for fundraising contacts is essential.
Please poke these chapters when you see them.
The link:
http://survey.wikimedia.org/index.php?sid=98552&lang=en
Completed:
US-NYC Wikimedia New York City
TW Wikimedia Taiwan
IT Wikimedia Italia
IL Wikimedia Israel
DE Wikimedia Deutschland
AU Wikimedia Australia
DK Wikimedia Danmark
FR Wikimédia France
GB Wikimedia UK
HK Wikimedia Hong Kong
HU Wikimédia Magyarország
MK Викимедија Македонија
RS Wikimedia Serbia
Uncompleted:
AR Wikimedia Argentina
AT Wikimedia Österreich
BR Wikimedia Brasil
CH Wikimedia CH
CZ Wikimedia Česká republika
EE Wikimedia Eesti
FI Wikimedia Suomi
ID Wikimedia Indonesia
IN Wikimedia India
NL Wikimedia Nederland
NO Wikimedia Norge
PH Wikimedia Philippines
PL Wikimedia Polska
PT Wikimedia Portugal
RU Wikimedia Russia
SE Wikimedia Sverige
UA Wikimedia Ukraine
-Rand
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fwd: Chapter Fundraising Survey...for Chapters
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:07:03 -0700
From: Rand Montoya <rmontoya(a)wikimedia.org>
To: chapters(a)wikimedia.ch, "Local Chapters, board and officers
coordination (closed subscription)" <internal-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
::Poke, poke!::
Hey All--
Below is the link for the Chapter Fundraising Assessment, something that
we talked about at the Chapter Fundraising Summit in Bristol, UK earlier
this year.
http://survey.wikimedia.org/index.php?sid=98552&lang=en
We have several chapters who have completed the survey, but others are
still needed. As I see it now (from the chapter list here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters):
Completed:
US-NYC Wikimedia New York City
TW Wikimedia Taiwan
IT Wikimedia Italia
IL Wikimedia Israel
DE Wikimedia Deutschland
Uncompleted:
AR Wikimedia Argentina
AT Wikimedia Österreich
AU Wikimedia Australia
BR Wikimedia Brasil
CH Wikimedia CH
CZ Wikimedia Česká republika
DK Wikimedia Danmark
EE Wikimedia Eesti
FI Wikimedia Suomi
FR Wikimédia France
GB Wikimedia UK
HK Wikimedia Hong Kong
HU Wikimédia Magyarország
ID Wikimedia Indonesia
IN Wikimedia India
MK Викимедија Македонија
NL Wikimedia Nederland
NO Wikimedia Norge
PH Wikimedia Philippines
PL Wikimedia Polska
PT Wikimedia Portugal
RU Wikimedia Russia
RS Wikimedia Serbia
SE Wikimedia Sverige
UA Wikimedia Ukraine
Thanks to all for helping us with this. As always, email me if you have
any questions or problems.
-Rand
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Chapter Fundraising Survey...for Chapters
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:56:25 -0700
From: Rand Montoya <rmontoya(a)wikimedia.org>
To: chapters(a)wikimedia.ch, "Local Chapters, board and officers
coordination (closed subscription)" <internal-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Hey Chapters--
As we begin the Annual Fundraiser it's important to update our Chapter
Fundraising contacts and prepare WMF to support new Chapters into the
fundraising process. So, we are inviting all Chapters to fill out the
following survey:
http://survey.wikimedia.org/index.php?sid=98552&lang=en
We don't mind if one Chapter representative fills it out or many do. We
are specifically trying to get the Chapter fundraising information and
figure out which chapters plan to work with us this year.
Please fill out the survey even if you've already responded to someone
via email or verbally. We are trying to capture a lot of data in one
place and use it for planning.
Please forward to all interested and appropriate Chapter representatives.
You can, of course, email me or Philippe directly if you have any
questions about this.
-Rand
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Cross posting to Asian chapters mailing list. Sorry.
Hullo chapters,
As our WMID facebook (
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/wikimedia.indonesia?ref=ts) page had
mentioned a few days ago, the report and expenses accountability of the
project (a writing competition in Wikipedia between 10 university) now
available in this link: http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Free_Your_Knowledge_2010
Hints, the expenses record can be click through down to the receipt (if
available) - it's fun! Click around if you have time.
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Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia
Ph. +62 816 484 5052
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Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan:
http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
Oops,
I forgot, if we do want to go forward and do a Asian chapters meeting
- we will need Erik Zachte to be there. You can not plan without
numbers and he has that.
And any other persons that may be a good addition - that anyone here
can think of?
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Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia
Ph. +62 816 484 5052
~~~~
Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan:
http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Siska Doviana
<siska.doviana(a)wikimedia.or.id> wrote:
> Ted,
> Thank you for the perspective, I still remember Anirudh saying how the
> Wikimania in Taipei is the "cleanest" (meaning the most organized) -
> and he was saying that after Argentine (so I was drawing a conclusion
> here).
>
> Morgan,
> I have no doubt you can deliver, I kept saying the opposite here that
> (may) sound discouraging because I know for a fact that the European
> is paying (most of it), and for them, unlike Wikimania, they see
> chapter's meeting as "business meeting" instead of "fun/ vacation/
> wikimania" type. Sure WMF people wants to go to Hong Kong, I would
> too, I mean my last experience in the German Embassy for schengen visa
> is a bit traumatic compare to Hong Kong "walk in" no visa required.
>
> What I meant to say is this, if you do have energy to spent, focused
> on the Asian chapter's meeting. It seem like a mutual agreement
> already - not just venue, not just transport, you don't even have to
> worry about sponsors - even if you bill the whole thing to WMF and
> insist: "We need this, we need a good facilitators too - consultant
> for non profit - a three day training identifying what our weakness
> is, what our strength - how we can push the movement together - the
> Asian way - how we can fill each other's weaknesses" - everyone would
> say - YES - let them meet - they need to push forward in synergy.
>
> I even thought about hiring Indonesian best facilitators for this,
> surely they will not bill in Euros.
>
> --
> Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia
> Ph. +62 816 484 5052
> ~~~~
> Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan:
> http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
>
Dear all:
Just wanna let you know about Hong Kong is planning to take the Chapters
Meeting 2011.
We already contacted our main possible sponsor Cyberport, to support the
venue, catering,
accommodation and local transportation (maybe even air tickets). We are
still negotiating
with them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberport
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberport>So if there are any update, i will
post it here ASAP.
--
Best regards,
Morgan Chan
----------------------------------------------------
Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
Dear all:
On behalf of WIkimedia Hong Kong, i am glad to inform all the Asian parties
that our first Wikimedia Asia Meeting will be hold during
APRICOT-APAN.asia/2011 <http://apricot-apan.asia/>.
APRICOT (Asia Pacific Regional Interent Conference on Operational
Technologies) is
Asia Pacific's premier internet annual summit. It aims to provide a forum
for key Internet
builders in the region to learn from their peers and other leaders in the
the internet community
from around the world.
The conference is on 21-25 Feb 2011 in Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition
Centre.
The meeting will be listed in the open agenda and every attendees can join. The
meeting
has been notified to WMFoundation, and Kul will be the one who follows
the stuff
of the
meeting.
But at the first stage, we need to find out the aims of the meeting. Maybe
you guys want
start a Asia-wide project, then it will be the time for you guys to do it.
The point is we just
want to make the meeting more meaningful, rather than just meeting Asian
fellows.
For the sponsorship and scholarship of the meeting, we will discuss it at
the next stage.
--
Best regards,
Morgan Chan
----------------------------------------------------
Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
Dear Asian:
We need web designers to design and run the website of Wikimedia Asia
Project.
Any volunteer?
--
Best regards,
Morgan Chan
----------------------------------------------------
Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
Ok,
It seems like I can't appointed anyone until December, so you guys
stuck with me.
I remember one email reminding people new to the list, what this list
is, so I think it is only fair to give a heads up to people who are
new to me :-)
I have receive more than one reminder off list to be polite and my
answer to that is, I think, the whole Asian continent is polite, if
you found one female who is not polite in this list, I don't think it
will kill anyone.
I want to be critical, and as a matter of fact, if there are people
who don't like my attitude, I will feed them vegetables so they live
healthy and long because if people don't like you they will give you
honest feed back - and I'm looking forward to that. So we could fix
wrong move as soon as after it was made.
I will feed my ego for complimentary someplace else - preferably with money.
Now, back to the subject
For those of you who weren't familiar with the subject: WMID launched
a wikipedia writing competition for 10 universities and train 90
participants to write in Wikipedia.
Although the project report has not finished yet, I will share with
you behind the screen result that won't make it to report, since, like
a lot of Asian, my English is not very good when it come to telling
things that people won't like.
1. Will people write wikipedia if they get paid?
I paid three intern to write in wikipedia in their training month to
get familiar with how it works. None of them know how wikipedia works.
They received USD 165/ month which is a lot for university students
without the need to actually to be in the office. Over one month they
manage to have 6 articles, 3 complete one, and 3 stubs, only one
didn't get tag improvement by the community.
So I conclude that I won't even try to pay people to write to
wikipedia. I did that, it sucked.
So the answer to that: probably, but you won't have a good quality
article by forcing people to write, they will only do so to meet
quantity target, but not quality.
2. Will people write wikipedia if they are offered "other" incentive?
Yes. In this case, students, who, in natural setting won't have
anything to do with wikipedia, when introduce to the project, they
specially react to recognition, love the challenge - the competitive
environment and its limit - die trying conquering it, and all in all -
they LOVE to travel to Europe. In short, trip incentive work
wonderfully.
3. Did they return to wikipedia to socialize?
Before I answer that, the competition at first was launch because I
thought people don't contribute to wikipedia because they don't know
how, they are not bold enough to try, etc-etc. So it is interesting
when, they already know how, and becoming very good at it PLUS I
receive email messages from participants who pledge going to help the
"free knowledge effort" no matter what.
87 participants and 72 days later.
None of them return.
Well, there is one, but I remember I asked him, have you write
wikipedia before the competition? And he nods, I believe it was only a
change of user name for him.
So what went wrong? Funny enough, I don't even have to ask...
One participant wrote to me aftermath.
"From the information I gather, I think there's a lot of crazy people
in wikipedia, I probably would come back to write because I love
writing. But I definitely won't join the conversation."
I replied and said "interesting!" (not surprising though). Maybe if
the writer could gather less-crazy people, then probably the writer
would like to reconsider not joining the conversation, and add: let's
figure out a way to do that.
So that's outside opinion for internal community. What did the
community think about bringing in more people in?
Surprisingly, they are equally resistant! Well, I only ask one person,
not exactly a representative population (for 30 v.active user). Not
mentioning name here.
"Interesting result, I would like to try 1,000 spot competition next,
already have human resources to handle it."
"Having more new people could change the game."
"What game?"
"Rule of play"
And I go, OMG, they like their power. They like the idea keep going
abroad and become knowledgeable representative. More people mean more
competition. More people mean less power, and perhaps less respect?
from an already established community. I actually never thought of
that. Or maybe I'm asking the wrong person? Not really sure.
So there you go, just a random rant. Maybe didn't mean anything, but I
think it is worth sharing.
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Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia
Ph. +62 816 484 5052
~~~~
Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan:
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Dear all:
I created a page on meta for Wikimedia Asia Project.
I tried to put everything about Wikimedia Asia Project on it
and i hope it would be easier for new comers to follow what
is actually going on here.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_Project
--
Best regards,
Morgan Chan
----------------------------------------------------
Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
Dear all Asians,
Our Meet Up will hold at 7:30 PM - 8:00 PM tonight, the venue is not sure
yet,
but i know we will meet each other at the* *Gathering of people from
existing and potential chapters,
so don't worry that we will miss each other.
We only have 30 mins, i think it is even less time than we had in Berlin.
So I think i will make an Agenda and keep the things going quickly.
I will send it to the mailing list later.
So see you tonight! :-)
--
Best regards,
Morgan Chan
----------------------------------------------------
Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536
I think we have to meet each other today
So how about we have dinner together? With your computer.
See you guy in Philharmonic at 1830 tonight?
--
Best regards,
Morgan Chan
----------------------------------------------------
Morgan Chan
Director and Commissioner of Communications, Wikimedia Hong Kong
Member of Communications committee, Wikimedia Foundation
E-mail：morgand536(a)wikimedia.hk
Tel.：+852 9012-2178
WLM：morgand536(a)gmail.com
Skype: ups918
Twitter: morgand536