I'm sure the rest of what you had to say, Julie, was relevant and important and interesting and I probably agreed with it. But you really don't know jack about Ayn Rand, so best not to say such nonsense about her in public. It's unscholarly at best, to issue snippy proclamations on a subject about which you apparently know nothing.

--Jimbo

Whoa Jimmy - that wasn't exactly following the principle of WikiLove (or did you just forget to place in a bunch of smilies? ;). At the very least I don't think it was too appropriate for a public list. JHK deserves much more respect than that - even if she was way off base with Ayn Rand.

Again avoiding the "f-word" (filtering) and using the "s-word" (sorting) should help tone down the rhetoric on both sides since sorting is far more general and /is/ something we need to do before RC becomes useless.

KQs last post on this got me thinking again that this will be very difficult since a tag is an on/off thing that /cannot/ be NPOVd like article text can....

I guess our only recourse is to tag things based on what they are instead of the type of emotions they may evoke in certain people. So "objectionable," "explicit content," PG-13" would /not/ be a valid categories. But "sexual practice," or maybe even "obscure sexual practice" (for felching, golden showers, fisting etc) would.

There still will be a great deal of conflict over this; would oral or anal sex get the tag of "obscure sexual practice"? Perhaps another tag in between "sexual practice" and "obscure sexual practice" would be needed to give parents the ability to sort out oral and anal sex if they so choose (but I wouldn't tag these as "obscure"). But that is just my POV which is based on my culture - thus the main problem KQ is talking about.

And there should /not/ be any sorting by default. Let each logged-in user should set their own preferences.

Sorting IMO is going to be absolutely essential in the future to prevent information overload for searches and for special pages like RC. But the devil comes out in the details when we deal with controversial subjects - or even conflicts between lumpers and dividers.

Peace be with you. :)

-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)