Personally, I find this thread about admin authority quite interesting. Especially as it coincides with [[Patrick Alexander (cartoonist)]] returning to [[WP:DRV]].
Jonel
Quoting wikien-l-request@Wikipedia.org:
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:20:32 +0100 From: "Steve Bennett" stevage@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Page protection vs. semi-protection To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org Message-ID: f1c3529e0603140220jc5e68b9scf67c8f136ce85e@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 3/14/06, guru brahma wikibra@yahoo.co.in wrote:
I am sorry to say this, but it appears ridiculous to classify
admins as a separate class of users. Being an admin doesn't give any extra "editing" privileges. The privileges that we get as admins may be at the most abused to prevent someone from doing something - blocking, protecting etc but do not give a free rein. Also, WP:AN takes care of violations asap. I believe admins are same as other users - only difference being that those afflicted with adminitis would feel that "all users are equal but admins are more equal than others."
It is my experience that admins are perceived as having some sort of authority. Maybe not a lot, but there is a difference when an admin offers his opinion on the interpretation of some policy. It shouldn't be like that, but it's probably unavoidable.
All we can ask is that admins be sensitive to that fact, and attempt to explicitly disclaim any such false authority arising purely from adminship. Of course, most admins have a fair bit of experience on Wikipedia and therefore *do* know the policies better than *most* people, but not necessarily better than *everyone*.
Steve
On 3/15/06, nwilkins@bu.edu nwilkins@bu.edu wrote:
Personally, I find this thread about admin authority quite interesting. Especially as it coincides with [[Patrick Alexander (cartoonist)]] returning to [[WP:DRV]].
Its deletion and confirmation were a very good example of our brain-dead deletion process.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:08:53 +0000, you wrote:
Personally, I find this thread about admin authority quite interesting. Especially as it coincides with [[Patrick Alexander (cartoonist)]] returning to [[WP:DRV]].
Its deletion and confirmation were a very good example of our brain-dead deletion process.
That's one way of looking at it. Or you could assume good faith. Guy (JzG)
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Guy Chapman aka JzG stated for the record:
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:08:53 +0000, you wrote:
Personally, I find this thread about admin authority quite interesting. Especially as it coincides with [[Patrick Alexander (cartoonist)]] returning to [[WP:DRV]].
Its deletion and confirmation were a very good example of our brain-dead deletion process.
That's one way of looking at it. Or you could assume good faith. Guy (JzG)
A reading from the Book of AGF:
"Of course, there's a difference between assuming good faith and ignoring bad actions."
- -- Sean Barrett | The Internet is out of control, impossible to sean@epoptic.org | map accurately, and being used far beyond | its original intentions. So far, so good.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:48:31 -0800, you wrote:
That's one way of looking at it. Or you could assume good faith. Guy (JzG)
A reading from the Book of AGF: "Of course, there's a difference between assuming good faith and ignoring bad actions."
Yup. In this case it is not that simple.
Steve Block made a good point, but the delete supporters were looking at the content of the article as written by "fan" DollyD. Multiple re-creation does not aid calm.
Which is why I suggested at DRV that we sit back and wait a while (it's OK, we won't miss the deadline - there isn't one). Steve seemed happy enough with that. Guy (JzG)
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:08:53 +0000, you wrote:
Its deletion and confirmation were a very good example of our brain-dead deletion process.
Incidentally, did you look at the history of the user who kept re-creating the article?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DollyD http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/contribution_tree?namespace=0&am...
And these kinds of edits: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patrick_Alexander&diff=3428625...
Which naturally arouses suspicions, good faith aside. Guy (JzG)