In a message dated 4/28/2008 7:16:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cohesion@sleepyhead.org writes:
Page blanking does work almost all the time, but what about areas that have a high likelihood for problems? Should we not index from the start, or only blank as needed for the sake of transparency? I kinda like both solutions equally. :P>>
---------------------- I'm in agreement with Judson here. Any specific, exact, identified, particular... issues could be solved with oversight. There is no need to wipe the entire board white to solve a few particular-case concerns.
Will Johnson
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:37 AM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
I'm in agreement with Judson here. Any specific, exact, identified, particular... issues could be solved with oversight. There is no need to wipe the entire board white to solve a few particular-case concerns.
Page blanking and oversight are generally only done AFTER problems are identified. Marking our non-product pages as non-indexable reduces the likelihood of problems in the first place - what generally bothers someone is not that things are written about them but that they show up on the first page of Google results.
-Matt
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Matthew Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:37 AM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
I'm in agreement with Judson here. Any specific, exact, identified, particular... issues could be solved
with
oversight. There is no need to wipe the entire board white to solve a few particular-case concerns.
Page blanking and oversight are generally only done AFTER problems are identified. Marking our non-product pages as non-indexable reduces the likelihood of problems in the first place - what generally bothers someone is not that things are written about them but that they show up on the first page of Google results.
-Matt
We are normally able to figure out when something is particularly embarrassing. I, at least, have no hesitation in erring on the side of caution by blanking discussions if I think them problematic - before there are any complaints. I still don't see the problem - perhaps it could be done more often.
RR
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Relata Refero refero.relata@gmail.com wrote:
We are normally able to figure out when something is particularly embarrassing. I, at least, have no hesitation in erring on the side of caution by blanking discussions if I think them problematic - before there are any complaints. I still don't see the problem - perhaps it could be done more often.
Yes, I meant, I came into this liking the no-index magic word scenario, but Relata may have a point. Maybe blanking is good enough. In my experience people are happy with it, and I mean very simple blanking, not even deletion, much less oversight. What they don't want is to be a hit in Google, they usually don't care one bit about our history.
I usually feel like for every n people that complain, a multiple of n stay silent, despite being wronged. That's why I would lean towards preemptive no-indexing for *some* pages. (AFD etc), but this is a slippery slope. The idea of blanking easily as the only solution is appealing also.
The reason I'd argue against pre-emptive blanking and/or pre-emptive No_Index'ing is that we essentially take what I consider the arrogant and condensending position that we know better than the target what would or wouldn't be embarrassing to that target.? I've never felt that it's our mandate to be the guardians of other people's privacy.? If so-and-so blp feels that we shouldn't mention that they were arrested for drunk driving they can come forward with their request.? Some people don't care.
The same goes for our own editors.? Do we put ourselves in the position of deciding what to oversight *without any request* from the target party?? If someone did that ostensibly in my favor, I would be offended by that action personally.? I certainly wouldn't thank them, or find their actions productive, helpful or even polite.
Our project should not be attempting to pre-emptively solve all issues, because we cannot.? We have mechanisms in place to handle each issue that's been mentioned already.? We don't need more creeping.
Will Johnson