On Wed, 31 May 2006 21:26:49 +0100 "Tony Sidaway" wrote:
this was a deletion review, with a view to restoration, of a userbox that said the owner was a satanist. I have canceled it on the grounds that such a template could only bring the project into disrepute.
I'm confident that this is best for Wikipedia. I don't think the goal of producing a high quality encyclopedia can be served by encouraging, though the provision of templates saying "I'm a satanist" and the like, the use of Wikipedia's website for social networking and coordination of work between adherents of satanism. It could only bring the whole enterprise into disrepute to permit such abuse. Therefore it's inappropriate to hold a DRV-style debate where traditionally the item is restored if a certain proportion of editors vote to restore it. We cannot make such a decision on the basis of votes. Perhaps a discussion on the talk page of the template might be appropriate, though I think it would require a very strong case to be made for this particular template
This is what I was talking about. When admins consider themselves empowered to completely ignore community consensus on the ground "I know better". The userbox debate has provided the highest amount of this shit, with admins speedying templates kept the day before at TfD. Don't give me that crap about best interests of the encyclopedia, it's subjective and you have no right to overrule community by the virtue of being an administrator. This makes me sick. Thankfully someone with good sense has restored the debate.
Molu, disgusted
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Molu wrote:
This is what I was talking about. When admins consider themselves empowered to completely ignore community consensus on the ground "I know better". The userbox debate has provided the highest amount of this shit, with admins speedying templates kept the day before at TfD. Don't give me that crap about best interests of the encyclopedia, it's subjective and you have no right to overrule community by the virtue of being an administrator. This makes me sick. Thankfully someone with good sense has restored the debate.
For me, "the community" means "the community of people here to build a high quality encyclopedia in a spirit of mutual respect and love," not "the community of whoever happens to show up and make a userbox."
Now, respect and love means taking it easy on people who think that "this user is a satanist" is a good userbox, but it also means making sure they understand that this is Not How We Behave.
--Jimbo