Not only that, but it doesn't differntiate between a character string in a title and a character string in an article. And it includes postings to the mailing list, which we may not want to publicize. Zoe Erik Moeller <erik_moeller(a)gmx.de> wrote:> If the search feature is slowing down the site, I think using Google I'm very much against this. Having search results in realtime is of crucial importance for serious article work to avoid duplicates. The Google spider only comes ever so often and misses a lot. PR Watch is one thing, Wikipedia is a couple orders of magnitude bigger, though. As a very, very temporary hack, the Google search is fine. But we need to get the realtime search (with wikisource no less!) back up and running ASAP. If we have to disable critical features to keep the site running, we may as well disable editing altogether until we have raised enough money to buy a bigger server and/or hire developers. As for optimization, there are still a few things we need to do, but we also have to keep in mind that a single server is now running all language Wikipedias + meta, and all of them are growing fast (faster now that Google indexes us again). I hope we have the nonprofit setup soon, and if we can't get it setup, we should start raising donations without an organization. Kuro5hin raised 35000 dollars in a few days -- I'm not sure if we can get that high, but we should certainly try. Regards, Erik _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!

Sure, and Jimbo hasn't even ruled out the possibility of taking government money, although he snapped when I mentioned the EU ;-). We should explore all reasonable opportunities. Web donations have the advantage of getting us a quick money fix, if that's what's needed. Regards, Erik

Axel Boldt wrote: I don't think that the Foundation should generally reject donations except when they come with strings attached. Being able to make a modest donation within one's means can give a sense of belonging. Two cautions come to mind right away: 1. We need to avoid any perception that a person's value to the Wikipedia community depends on the amount of donation. The amounts may need to be kept secret. 2. There needs to be a refund mechanism for banned people who somehow believe that their donation gives them a protection against banning. Eclecticology