Know your way around? Able to keep a cool head consistently in the face of staggering stupidity? Willing to send ID to the Foundation?
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/volunteering
I see we've got a few volunteers from this thread already ...
- d.
On 7/10/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Know your way around? Able to keep a cool head consistently in the face of staggering stupidity? Willing to send ID to the Foundation?
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/volunteeringI see we've got a few volunteers from this thread already ...
- d.
Don't forget "Admin?"
Rory
On 10/07/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Know your way around? Able to keep a cool head consistently in the face of staggering stupidity? Willing to send ID to the Foundation?
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/volunteeringI see we've got a few volunteers from this thread already ...
- d.
Don't forget "Admin?"
It's not essential, as long as you can forward the ticket on to someone who can deal with it. There's a fair bit of simple vandalism reverts, sticking permissions on images and generally moving e-mails about, forwarding them onto the right place.
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On 10/07/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Know your way around? Able to keep a cool head consistently in the face of staggering stupidity? Willing to send ID to the Foundation? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/volunteering I see we've got a few volunteers from this thread already ...
Don't forget "Admin?"
Probably helps, but is not a listed requirement.
- d.
Ooh, I thought it was, which was why I haven't volunteered before. Was it, previously?
On 10/07/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/07/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Know your way around? Able to keep a cool head consistently in the face of staggering stupidity? Willing to send ID to the Foundation? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/volunteering I see we've got a few volunteers from this thread already ...
Don't forget "Admin?"
Probably helps, but is not a listed requirement.
- d.
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On 7/10/07, Gary Kirk gary.kirk@gmail.com wrote:
Ooh, I thought it was, which was why I haven't volunteered before. Was it, previously?
I'm positively sure that being an admin was never ever a requirement for OTRS access.
Michael
On 10/07/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/07/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Know your way around? Able to keep a cool head consistently in the face of staggering stupidity? Willing to send ID to the Foundation? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/volunteering I see we've got a few volunteers from this thread already ...
Don't forget "Admin?"
Probably helps, but is not a listed requirement.
- d.
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On 7/10/07, Michael Bimmler mbimmler@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, Gary Kirk gary.kirk@gmail.com wrote:
Ooh, I thought it was, which was why I haven't volunteered before. Was it, previously?
I'm positively sure that being an admin was never ever a requirement for OTRS access.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anthony_DiPierro&d...
Hi. I just removed your offer to volunteer for OTRS. While we very much appreciate your willingness to help out, it is best if volunteers can demonstrate community trust, in the form of adminship, on one of the projects. If you'd like to help out the OTRS team without being an admin, you can do so at en: by participating in projects like en:Wikipedia:Help desk, en:Wikipedia:Biographies of living people/Noticeboard, welcoming newcomers, and in recent changes patrol, and generally helping to keep the quality of the project high. Again, thank you very much for your offer to help out, and do feel free to relist yourself in the future. Jkelly 02:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
On 10/07/07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote: (Quoting [[User:Jkelly]])
Hi. I just removed your offer to volunteer for OTRS. While we very much appreciate your willingness to help out, it is best if volunteers can demonstrate community trust, in the form of adminship, on one of the projects.
Adminship demonstrates community trust? What a quaint, outdated notion!
More like: Person was previously given special privileges and did not abuse them.
On 7/10/07, James Farrar james.farrar@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/07/07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote: (Quoting [[User:Jkelly]])
Hi. I just removed your offer to volunteer for OTRS. While we very much appreciate your willingness to help out, it is best if volunteers can demonstrate community trust, in the form of adminship, on one of the projects.
Adminship demonstrates community trust? What a quaint, outdated notion!
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On 10/07/07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote: (Quoting [[User:Jkelly]])
Hi. I just removed your offer to volunteer for OTRS. While we very much appreciate your willingness to help out, it is best if volunteers can demonstrate community trust, in the form of adminship, on one of the projects.
Adminship demonstrates community trust? What a quaint, outdated notion!
Adminship demonstrates that you're the community's favourite punchbag. Dunno where trust comes in.
More-schi
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On 7/10/07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anthony_DiPierro&d...
Hi. I just removed your offer to volunteer for OTRS. While we very much appreciate your willingness to help out, it is best if volunteers can demonstrate community trust, in the form of adminship, on one of the projects. If you'd like to help out the OTRS team without being an admin, you can do so at en: by participating in projects like en:Wikipedia:Help desk, en:Wikipedia:Biographies of living people/Noticeboard, welcoming newcomers, and in recent changes patrol, and generally helping to keep the quality of the project high. Again, thank you very much for your offer to help out, and do feel free to relist yourself in the future. Jkelly 02:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Well... I stand corrected. But I still think that being an admin shouldn't be a requirement, there are other means to evaluate whether one was is trustworthy. Michael
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On 7/10/07, Michael Bimmler mbimmler@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anthony_DiPierro&d...
Hi. I just removed your offer to volunteer for OTRS. While we very much appreciate your willingness to help out, it is best if volunteers can demonstrate community trust, in the form of adminship, on one of the projects. If you'd like to help out the OTRS team without being an admin, you can do so at en: by participating in projects like en:Wikipedia:Help desk, en:Wikipedia:Biographies of living people/Noticeboard, welcoming newcomers, and in recent changes patrol, and generally helping to keep the quality of the project high. Again, thank you very much for your offer to help out, and do feel free to relist yourself in the future. Jkelly 02:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Well... I stand corrected. But I still think that being an admin shouldn't be a requirement, there are other means to evaluate whether one was is trustworthy. Michael
Indeed, it's a rather silly requirement. I think the age requirement is even worse (afaik, we've had perfectly good under-18 otrs volunteers in the past), but that would need a board resolution to change, and I doubt that would ever happen (considering it's the same board that passed the resolution implementing this requirement in the first place).
Rory
On 7/10/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, Michael Bimmler mbimmler@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anthony_DiPierro&d...
Hi. I just removed your offer to volunteer for OTRS. While we very much appreciate your willingness to help out, it is best if volunteers can demonstrate community trust, in the form of adminship, on one of the projects. If you'd like to help out the OTRS team without being an admin, you can do so at en: by participating in projects like en:Wikipedia:Help desk, en:Wikipedia:Biographies of living people/Noticeboard, welcoming newcomers, and in recent changes patrol, and generally helping to keep the quality of the project high. Again, thank you very much for your offer to help out, and do feel free to relist yourself in the future. Jkelly 02:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Well... I stand corrected. But I still think that being an admin shouldn't be a requirement, there are other means to evaluate whether one was is trustworthy. Michael
Indeed, it's a rather silly requirement. I think the age requirement is even worse (afaik, we've had perfectly good under-18 otrs volunteers in the past), but that would need a board resolution to change, and I doubt that would ever happen (considering it's the same board that passed the resolution implementing this requirement in the first place).
I think the fear is that OTRS people might be seen as agents of the foundation under some circumstances, but if they're under 18 (in the US) aren't legally able to be held responsible for such agent status.
On 7/10/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, it's a rather silly requirement. I think the age requirement is even worse (afaik, we've had perfectly good under-18 otrs volunteers in the past), but that would need a board resolution to change, and I doubt that would ever happen (considering it's the same board that passed the resolution implementing this requirement in the first place).
Apparently the age 18 requirement did change: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=OTRS/volunteering&diff=62281...
On 7/10/07, Mike R tacodeposit@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, it's a rather silly requirement. I think the age requirement is even worse (afaik, we've had perfectly good under-18 otrs volunteers in the past), but that would need a board resolution to change, and I doubt that would ever happen (considering it's the same board that passed the resolution implementing this requirement in the first place).
Apparently the age 18 requirement did change: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=OTRS/volunteering&diff=62281...
See also: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Access_to_nonpublic_data_policy
I think the age requirement is silly. It's ageism and some youth rights organizations hates ageism to youth.
On 7/10/07, Mike R tacodeposit@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/10/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, it's a rather silly requirement. I think the age requirement is even worse (afaik, we've had perfectly good under-18 otrs volunteers in the past), but that would need a board resolution to change, and I doubt that would ever happen (considering it's the same board that passed the resolution implementing this requirement in the first place).
Apparently the age 18 requirement did change: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=OTRS/volunteering&diff=62281...
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On 11/07/07, Jet jet123.jet123@gmail.com wrote:
I think the age requirement is silly. It's ageism and some youth rights organizations hates ageism to youth.
Some youth rights organisations should teach the people they represent to enunciate themselves more clearly. Ageism is just another "ism" where some people try to ignore the facts because they might possibly hurt someone's feelings somewhere sometime. If someone young acts mature enough then they are ready for the responsibility. Calling things silly is not acting mature btw.
Peter
On 7/11/07, Jet jet123.jet123@gmail.com wrote:
I think the age requirement is silly. It's ageism and some youth rights organizations hates ageism to youth.
Tell that to governments which won't lower the age of majority then. The WMF can't do anything about ageism as far as legal issues are concerned - not that it matters since the age requirement is now gone, because the WMF has decided that OTRS volunteers need not be its legal agents.
Johnleemk
On Jul 10, 2007, at 7:27 AM, David Gerard wrote:
Know your way around? Able to keep a cool head consistently in the face of staggering stupidity? Willing to send ID to the Foundation?
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/volunteeringI see we've got a few volunteers from this thread already ...
David, I offered myself to help out on OTRS, but no one contacted me.
-- Jossi
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:34:56 -0700, Jossi Fresco jossifresco@mac.com wrote:
David, I offered myself to help out on OTRS, but no one contacted me.
Lack of time form the co-ordinators, last I saw there was a determined effort afoot to clear the backlog of new volunteers pending assessment.
Guy (JzG)