Science is facts; just as houses are made of stones, so is science made of facts; but a pile of stones is not a house and a collection of facts is not necessarily science. -- Henri Poincaire
Now apply this to Wikipedia:
s/science/article/
QED.
Despite largely agreeing, that's proof by assertion / appeal to authority ;)
-Matt
Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:
Science is facts; just as houses are made of stones, so is science made of facts; but a pile of stones is not a house and a collection of facts is not necessarily science. -- Henri Poincaire
Now apply this to Wikipedia:
s/science/article/
QED.
...and your point is?
If this is yet another attempt to have fictional entities booted off Wikipedia, I'm sure I'll not be alone in getting rather annoyed.
Phil Boswell wrote:
Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:
Science is facts; just as houses are made of stones, so is science made of facts; but a pile of stones is not a house and a collection of facts is not necessarily science. -- Henri Poincaire
Now apply this to Wikipedia:
s/science/article/
QED.
...and your point is?
If this is yet another attempt to have fictional entities booted off Wikipedia, I'm sure I'll not be alone in getting rather annoyed.
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of "Why trivia sections need to die"... not the stuff in them, but the existence of them as "piles of unsorted facts".
On 18/04/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of "Why trivia sections need to die"... not the stuff in them, but the existence of them as "piles of unsorted facts".
They need to die in the same way that unwikified articles need to die. Not by being deleted, but by being fixed. But we've had that discussion before. Suffice to say that The Perfect Article does not have a Trivia section.
Steve
On 4/18/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of "Why trivia sections need to die"... not the stuff in them, but the existence of them as "piles of unsorted facts".
Piles of unassorted facts need to be sorted.
On 18/04/06, Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
If this is yet another attempt to have fictional entities booted off Wikipedia, I'm sure I'll not be alone in getting rather annoyed.
I read [[Dalek]] for the first time today - what a great article, and what a fantastic way to make something pretty obscure and fancrufty approachable to non-fans. Maybe if other fancrufty articles took it as a model, there'd be less resentment...
Steve
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:55:13 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
If this is yet another attempt to have fictional entities booted off Wikipedia, I'm sure I'll not be alone in getting rather annoyed.
Don't worry, the balance is in no danger of tipping towards factual subjects any time soon.
Mind you, only the other day I was doing RC patrol when someone created an article on a subject which was not only factual, but had not been mentioned on YTMND *or* FARK.
It was a newbie's first article, of course - he'll learn... Guy (JzG)
On 4/18/06, Guy Chapman aka JzG guy.chapman@spamcop.net wrote:
Mind you, only the other day I was doing RC patrol when someone created an article on a subject which was not only factual, but had not been mentioned on YTMND *or* FARK.
It was a newbie's first article, of course - he'll learn...
Ah, now I know what I've been doing wrong all these years. Nary a fictional subject in the bunch.
-Matt
Phil Boswell wrote:
Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:
Science is facts; just as houses are made of stones, so is science made of facts; but a pile of stones is not a house and a collection of facts is not necessarily science. -- Henri Poincaire
Now apply this to Wikipedia:
s/science/article/
QED.
...and your point is?
If this is yet another attempt to have fictional entities booted off Wikipedia, I'm sure I'll not be alone in getting rather annoyed.
As a mathematician Poincaré would have been familiar with reasoning divorced from fact. See [[Henri Poincaré#Philosophy]]. Unlike other scientists mathematicians are not mere fact-wallahs. They sit at the soul of science fiction.
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