Fred Bauder wrote:

I believe RK's material could and should probably be presented in several paragraphs. What he has done is a piece of original historical research, which by citing particular statements made by Palestinians builds a strong case that at least some Palestinian leaders are insincere.

Well the allegation that Palestinian leaders often say one thing in English to westerners and say another thing in Arabic to the Islamic world is not what I would call new work.

But the long passage would definitely be improved by a great deal of condensation at the very least. My first impression upon reading it was that for the length of text it actually said very little. But I'm not prepared to get into an edit war with RK over it - he seems to find it difficult to take critical comments about his work.

I'm sure I'm not the only person who avoids editing these kind of articles because of RK. Wrong or not on this particular issue, Danny was one of the few people who would not back down to RK's bullying (yes, IMO, what RK does when he does not get his way is bullying).

Sadly it now seems that Jimbo's declarative and unmitigated comments have resulted in Danny leaving the project. Jimbo should realize the great weight his comments have and mix criticism with some sort of mitigating/less sharp comments.

I don't think that Danny's absence serves the big picture goal of having NPOV over many Middle-east subjects.

I am very sad to see him leave.

-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)