Not only that, but he does not understand the
situation here. EVERYTIME I WRITE SOMETHING totally
LEGITIMATE, it is there for a while and then some nash
lover just deletes it or, people keep complaining. I
am just trying to keep this site neutral but most of
these editors who all HATE KOBE BRYANT are JUST NOT
GETTING IT. I am frustrated and this admin DID NOT
understand the whole situation. That is the problem.
And the other admins don't like me because I bring up
FACTS (I repeat FACTS OR POST ARTICLES) that they
don't want to see and wish they never knew, since this
steve nash guy really is given a lot more credit than
he deserves in my opinion, yet these admins like PS2PC
GAMER and MADCHESTER have swallowed the media spin and
are in love with him. I never thought admins would be
like this.
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4. Re: Message: 4 William M. Connolley- He wrote
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:31:43 -0500
From: "Drini drini" <wpdrini(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Deletion before discussion
To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org>
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EXCEPT... that Wikipedia is not your personal blog
nor a free webhost
(**Official policy** at [[WP:NOT]] ). Userspace IS
SUPPOSED to be
relted to your wikipedia work, not to post pictures
of your family.
If you misuse it, don't cry about it later.
And , do you really think vandals will care about
the copyright? they
WILL get the pictures and post them anyway.
Wikipedia IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA not an scrapbook, but
there's plenty of
sites where you can put your family pictures if you
like
On 5/17/06, Rob <gamaliel8(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/17/06, Ben McIlwain <cydeweys(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Steve Bennett wrote:
> > On 5/17/06, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm afaraid we don't allow "with permission"
images.
>
> > Even in userspace? Was that an intentional
decision? Does it
apply
when
> > people upload photos of themselves?
> /Especially/ in userspace (in
articles you can
at least make a case for
> fair use). And people had better be
uploading
those pictures of
> themselves under free licenses such as GFDL,
CC,
or PD.
Why?
If I ever wanted to put a pic of myself or my kids
on WP, I wouldn't
want to release it under a free (or free-ish)
license so every troll I
block for vandalism could put my family on their
webpage. Of course,
they can already do that, but not legally, for
what it's worth.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:54:34 -0400
From: "Katie (keitei)" <katiefromuncyc(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Deletion before discussion
To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org>
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On 5/17/06, Philip Welch <wikipedia(a)philwelch.net>
wrote:
On May 17, 2006, at 2:59 PM, Steve Bennett
wrote:
> Even in userspace? Was that an intentional
decision? Does it apply
when
people upload photos of themselves?
People should release photos of themselves under
GFDL or CC-BY-SA if
they upload them. If they aren't the original
photographer they
should not upload other people's copyrighted
photos to Wikipedia.
The image this thread was originally about did have
a CC license. It's
technically a free license, just not THE free
license. CC-BY-NC-SA
should be allowed in userpages, in my opinion.
--
-Katie
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/User:Keitei
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keitei
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:06:57 -0400
From: "Earthhope Action Network"
<contact(a)earthhopenetwork.net>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Message: 4 William M.
Connolley- He wrote
about the edit
To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org
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Subject: [WikiEN-l] William M. Connolley- He
wrote
about the
edit wars butit makes no sense!!!!!!!!!
Why? Because the other wikipedians are vandalizing
and
deleting ALL THE FACTS I WRITE that completely
RELATE
TO THE SUBJECT. I did not do anything wrong this
time,
but he is upset by the info I post. I am
steaming
about this. He is a horrible admin.
You'll find any number of other editors who agree
with you, but this isn't
the place to discuss it. As advised, use the article
discussion page to talk
about it in a civil and constructive manner. If you
still cannot get
justice*, come back with a couple of good examples
and ask for help. Don't
expect much if you are being a self-righteous pest.
Pete, speaking from experience
*Justice is a nebulous concept here. Wikipedia is
just a website. It's not a
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