WJhonson@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 4/28/2009 12:30:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, saintonge@telus.net writes:

Requiring the author to explain why a property is notable makes it easier to have shifting goalposts for notability to satisfy the AfD denizens.>>

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We have always placed the burden of proof-of-notability on the contributing author, not on the rest of the AfD posters. That's been true across each AfD for notability that I've seen. I doubt it's going to change. I did not create that, it's just the way it is.

Will Johnson

I disagree. To delete requires a consensus to delete. That is, a consensus of people believe the article has no place on wikipedia.

There are still some of us who remember that [[WP:N]] and other notability guidelines are only guidelines for a reason, they indicate how debates have tended to go in the past, they don't determine them, or legislate them.

For myself, I look at the merits of the article, and use common sense. Actually, I NEVER read notability guidelines.