"Vogel, You�re inflaming this situation unnecessarily. There is no conspiracy or cabal plotting against you. You need to calm down and get a hold of yourself before continuing in this behavior. You are only hurting yourself."
On the contrary, YOU are ONE of THEM and have forced me to resort to calling attention to what you and YOUR ILK of LYING HYPOCRITES and CENSOROUS BIGOTS have been doing to users here.
"Your views, no matter how offensive others might consider them, were not the reason you were banned."
That is simply and clearly a bald-faced lie.
"The behavior you engaged in was."
Hardly! Again, psychological projection and double-standards!
"By vandalizing pages, engaging in excessive reverts and circumventing temp bans you put yourself in this position."
I didn't vandalize any pages, or engage in excessive reverts, but, I DID circumvent any bans based upon any such false pov allegations and upon any such biased treatment and harrassment
"Take some time off wikipedia, collect your thoughts, review the editing rules and come back -after- your ban expires refreshed and ready to contribute."
I have not been the one continually violating such rules. YOU and YOUR ILK actually have, and enforce it only on those when you don't agree with their own pov.
"No one that I know of wants to suppress your contributions, they want you to make them in the way stated by wikipedia policy and deal with conflict in a more calm and rational matter. I am sure if you come back and behave yourself and make good contributions all will be forgotten. Thanks and good luck."
I don't believe you, for you do not mean what you say nor say what you mean, as your own actions and words have demonstrated over and over again with me. You are NOT HONEST nor SINCERE, either, Karl.
Those were the same kind of "patronizing" and and "insulting" and typical "personal insults" that I have come to expect from such a cabal or ilk and mob of "lying hypocrites"!
It is clear that some are only "covering" for these censorous bigots and that they do not want to review the "facts" or any "evidence" of my true allegations of the reality of this hidden cabal or ilk of these censorous lying and hypocritical bigots within the Wikipedia community.
If there is not proper justice done here and on my behalf, then I will know that this project is bogus and that this lying and hypocritical ilk is in full control of it, and so will almost anyone else that is "objective" AND "fair-minded".
Paul Vogel
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--- Mr Paul Vogel bannedneedle@yahoo.com wrote: ...snip...
If there is not proper justice done here and on my behalf, then I will know that this project is bogus and that this lying and hypocritical ilk is in full control of it, and so will almost anyone else that is "objective" AND "fair-minded". Paul Vogel
And then you will leave? Really? Wow, can't wait :)
In all seriousness, if you can't deal with debade and edits, then you probably should recosider your level of involvement in this community.
On an aside, the mailing lists are publicly archived and are usually googled pretty quickly.
Do a search for your name on google in a couple of weeks and I bet these messages will be in the top 20.
All this to say that we have auditability and he-said-she-said catfights are usually easily resolved with permanent bans. YMMV. IANAL. HTH. RTFM(A).
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Christopher Mahan wrote:
--- Mr Paul Vogel bannedneedle@yahoo.com wrote: ...snip...
If there is not proper justice done here and on my behalf, then I will know that this project is bogus and that this lying and hypocritical ilk is in full control of it, and so will almost anyone else that is "objective" AND "fair-minded". Paul Vogel
And then you will leave? Really? Wow, can't wait :)
In all seriousness, if you can't deal with debade and edits, then you probably should recosider your level of involvement in this community.
On an aside, the mailing lists are publicly archived and are usually googled pretty quickly.
Do a search for your name on google in a couple of weeks and I bet these messages will be in the top 20.
All this to say that we have auditability and he-said-she-said catfights are usually easily resolved with permanent bans. YMMV. IANAL. HTH. RTFM(A).
===== Christopher Mahan chris_mahan@yahoo.com 818.943.1850 cell http://www.christophermahan.com/
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