Am I misreading the block feed or, are we blocking dynamically assigned IP address space with the reason {proxy} for indef?
Navou
On 09/09/07, NavouWiki navouwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Am I misreading the block feed or, are we blocking dynamically assigned IP address space with the reason {proxy} for indef?
Probably. Note that not all are errors - there are some that are dynamic and some that are just in dynamic-looking ranges. And some "DHCP" changes every 8 hours and some changes every six months. And lots of 0wnz0r3d home boxes on DSL.
- d.
On 09/09/2007, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/09/07, NavouWiki navouwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Am I misreading the block feed or, are we blocking dynamically assigned IP address space with the reason {proxy} for indef?
Probably. Note that not all are errors - there are some that are dynamic and some that are just in dynamic-looking ranges. And some "DHCP" changes every 8 hours and some changes every six months. And lots of 0wnz0r3d home boxes on DSL.
- d.
Wikipaedia's current Tor blocking methods are quite crude, resulting in many false positives and false negatives.
You can use TorDNSEL or exitlist to generate a list of Tor nodes exiting to Wikipaedia: http://exitlist.torproject.org/ http://cvs.seul.org/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/tor/trunk/contrib/exitlist?rev=10402...
Other softwares of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/TawkerbotTorA http://www.imperialviolet.org/binary/mediawiki-1.4.4-tor-block.patch
If you are interested in any of these, talk to me!
So, for the record, if you don't use these softwares, it is not the fault of the Tor developers if Tor is not accurately blocked.
With regards to the title - why are you calling Tor 'insecure'? As far as low-latency anonymity networks go, Tor is cutting edge.
On 9/10/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
With regards to the title - why are you calling Tor 'insecure'?
I believe the term 'insecure proxy' is being used to mean an open proxy server, i.e.: that anyone can use, without a password. We don't like those because lots of people end up editing with the same IP showing up. Tor has the same characteristics, and is thus susceptible to the same kinds of abuse.
Steve
On 11/09/2007, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/10/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
With regards to the title - why are you calling Tor 'insecure'?
I believe the term 'insecure proxy' is being used to mean an open proxy server, i.e.: that anyone can use, without a password.
That's a feature, not a bug. Tor is a volunteer network, with a goal of better privacy for anyone who wants it.
If Wikipaedia does not accurately block Tor, well, that's Wikipaedia's insecurity. The Tor people have offered help with regards to this, but it hasn't been used.
We don't like those because lots of people end up editing with the same IP showing up. Tor has the same characteristics, and is thus susceptible to the same kinds of abuse.
Steve
So use Nym. http://lunkwill.org/src/nym/nym.pdf