Let's start out with a general explanation. I am http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flameviper . I had been contributing since May 2005 or so, with numerous crapstacles. I had been banned/unbanned about 3 times, etc, etc. I had been editing pages and such for about 3 months since unbanning when I saw a comment from the user Elaragirl. I went to her talk page to respond, and read the linked document EL:TEACUP, which (if I recall correctly) is still linked to from her talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elaragirl).
Anyways, I said something to the effect of "you're either going to be my friend or a pain in the ass, I hope for both our sakes it will be the former". Of course, both Elaragirl and I (as later cleared up via email) understood the point of the message and neither of us were offended (I asked her). However, I was banned per the personal attack policy. On AN/I, Ryanpostlewait (sorry if I spelled it wrong Ryan) posted an e-mail from me (which I thought had been private) which said something along the lines of me being a troll and trying to be good and not get banned. Of course, I meant to say something completely different, but nobody asked me about it again, and I was summarily banned.
A couple months later, I came back with another account named Two-Sixteen. This time, however, I was friendly (perhaps overly so) to everyone I saw. I made great (perhaps overly exaggerated) efforts to not offend anyone, and I got along fine with the general Wikipedia population. I edited pages, I categorized things, I didn't really do anything spectacular. One day, someone raised the issue of the account Flameviper being unblocked (maybe it was me, I don't remember). I didn't have a crusade for Flameviper to be unblocked, I simply suggested the idea and left the discussion alone (although I said "I agree" on the noticeboard). It was generally agreed that Flameviper had not done anything wrong in the first place, and so that account was unblocked. At this point, "Flameviper" was unblocked (although the account's past was still suspicious) and Two-Sixteen had never received so much as a warning for anything.
The next day, I logged on and found that Jpgordon had performed a checkuser (although without any type of process, even though I remember a lengthy process to approve requests for checkuser) and found that Flameviper and Two-Sixteen were the same person.
Two-Sixteen was indef-blocked immediately for being "disruptive" (although the account in question had never disrupted anything). Flameviper was indef-blocked immediately for "using a sockpuppet to manipulate an unblock" (which is odd, since the administrator unblocked on his own judgement).
Now here is my opinion of the entire incident.
My statement in the e-mail to Ryan (which was something along the lines of "I enjoy Internet drama" was somehow twisted into "I like to create Internet drama" and that was further bastardized into "I am a troll". And when whoever it was offered to be my mentor or whatever, I accepted the offer, which was somehow twisted into "I decline the offer". And again, TROLL. I *personally* find being banned offensive to me, but I at least realize that by banning me the admins aren't trying to be offensive and that they're just doing what they think is right. And I respect your right to have your own opinion and not sugar-coat everything you say so it won't be construed as a "PERSONAL ATTACK OH MY GOD". Because furthermore, what I said on Elaragirl's talk page was more along the lines of "When I meet someone with a similar personality to mine, we either agree on everything and it's a blast, or we have a massive conflict because we have differing opinions and we both have the rock-colid attitude that nothing is going to change our minds, and most of our decisions will conflict with one another's, and we'll end up hating each other. I hope for both of our sakes that we can learn to get along". But instead of saying that, I contracted it to "You're either going to be my friend or a pain in the ass, I hope it's going to be the first one". And because I didn't carefully sugarcoat all the pointy phrasings of my comment, it was taken as a "personal attack" by people who it wasn't even directed at (nobody even asked Elaragirl if she was offended or not), and I was banned. I'm sick of talking for an entire damn paragraph when I could say the same thing in three words, and although I realize the policies on "trolling" and "personal attacks" were intended to protect innocent users from actual trolls and flamers, they're becoming utterly ridiculous and a nuisance to everyone involved.
I joined Wikipedia to write an encyclopedia, not to have a damn soap opera every time I say something.
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On 05/09/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Now, now. It would be enough to note that the block log suggests the situation is considerably more complicated than described.
- d.
As is it if you know how flameviper acts on IRC. Many ops suspect that he did a few of the bot attacks on #wikipedia. (Maybe just suspicion, but nevertheless, it's suspicious.)
On 9/5/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/09/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Now, now. It would be enough to note that the block log suggests the situation is considerably more complicated than described.
- d.
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Vee wrote:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Vee: Please be comfortable in the knowledge that I am not about to feed you.
Ec
Hehehe, but yeah, you're right, saying that is, almost by definition, feeding the flame (no pun intended :-P).
On 9/5/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Vee wrote:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Vee: Please be comfortable in the knowledge that I am not about to feed you.
Ec
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On 05/09/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Vee wrote:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Vee: Please be comfortable in the knowledge that I am not about to feed you.
Ec
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the fact is that he could come back if he wanted to and no one would be any the wiser if he didn't get up to the crap he did before. i don't get why banned users whine about being 'banned' when it's perfectly easy to come back and have no one notice provided you dont continue the same disruptive behaviour
He'd successfully done that before -- as User:Two-Sixteen -- until he was stupid enough to push for Flameviper's unblocking.
On 9/5/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
the fact is that he could come back if he wanted to and no one would be any the wiser if he didn't get up to the crap he did before. i don't get why banned users whine about being 'banned' when it's perfectly easy to come back and have no one notice provided you dont continue the same disruptive behaviour
Exactly? So why doesn't he just do that again, bar the stupidness? to be honest if i were him id rather start afresh rather than having all that history being brought up on me at every turn.
On 05/09/07, Josh Gordon user.jpgordon@gmail.com wrote:
He'd successfully done that before -- as User:Two-Sixteen -- until he was stupid enough to push for Flameviper's unblocking.
On 9/5/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
the fact is that he could come back if he wanted to and no one would be any the wiser if he didn't get up to the crap he did before. i don't get why banned users whine about being 'banned' when it's perfectly easy to come back and have no one notice provided you dont continue the same
disruptive
behaviour
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On 05/09/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/09/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Vee wrote:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Vee: Please be comfortable in the knowledge that I am not about to feed you.
Ec
the fact is that he could come back if he wanted to and no one would be any the wiser if he didn't get up to the crap he did before. i don't get why banned users whine about being 'banned' when it's perfectly easy to come back and have no one notice provided you dont continue the same disruptive behaviour
Not being able to edit isn't the half of it. Did you read the guy's (or gal's) talk page? He doesn't want to edit. He feels hurt by the way Wikipaedia has treated him. Maybe he'll want to edit later, I don't know, that's his deal, not mine.
Still, Wikipaedia does more than just ban people - Wikipaedia attacks them on top Google-ranking pages. It's no wonder Wikipaedia ends up getting involved in cross-site flame wars, which of course results in innocent Wikipaedians being attacked, which upsets them, which fuels the whole cycle of pain... on and on and on, so many people getting hurt....
On 9/5/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
the fact is that he could come back if he wanted to and no one would be any the wiser if he didn't get up to the crap he did before. i don't get why banned users whine about being 'banned' when it's perfectly easy to come back and have no one notice provided you dont continue the same disruptive behaviour
But don't they usually? If user:foo is blocked/banned for doing "X" and comes back as user:bar and does "X" again, it will eventually lead to another block/ban. The only thing a sockpuppet accusation does is make the second block/ban happen quicker. Even if bar is not foo, the blocking is for doing "X".
The solution is simple. "Don't do X". An easy thing to do if said user is here to write an encyclopedia. Impossible if he's here to do "X".
Is it really sad that I followed you perfectly? :-) ("Even if bar is not foo, the blocking is for doing "X".") :-DD
On 9/5/07, Ron Ritzman ritzman@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/5/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
the fact is that he could come back if he wanted to and no one would be
any
the wiser if he didn't get up to the crap he did before. i don't get why banned users whine about being 'banned' when it's perfectly easy to come back and have no one notice provided you dont continue the same
disruptive
behaviour
But don't they usually? If user:foo is blocked/banned for doing "X" and comes back as user:bar and does "X" again, it will eventually lead to another block/ban. The only thing a sockpuppet accusation does is make the second block/ban happen quicker. Even if bar is not foo, the blocking is for doing "X".
The solution is simple. "Don't do X". An easy thing to do if said user is here to write an encyclopedia. Impossible if he's here to do "X".
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Vee schrieb:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Isn't this list moderated?
On 9/6/07, Adrian aldebaer@googlemail.com wrote:
Vee schrieb:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Isn't this list moderated?
After a spate of recent complaints about the policy of not letting people decide for themselves what they should read, we decided to unmoderate the list so y'all could see what you've been missing out on.
Seriously, I'm not sure why this got through. Probably because either this user was contributing nicely to the list for a while, thus being taken off moderation, or because a mod has particularly lenient standards. Usually it's the latter; I myself probably would have erred on the side of approving it. Contrary to common belief, mods are not too strict about what appears on the list; it's the *blatantly* repetitive/redundant/non-contributing stuff that we reject.
Johnleemk
On 05/09/07, John Lee johnleemk@gmail.com wrote:
Seriously, I'm not sure why this got through. Probably because either this user was contributing nicely to the list for a while, thus being taken off moderation, or because a mod has particularly lenient standards. Usually it's the latter; I myself probably would have erred on the side of approving it. Contrary to common belief, mods are not too strict about what appears on the list; it's the *blatantly* repetitive/redundant/non-contributing stuff that we reject.
And wikien-l is an official channel of complaint. It's when it gets repetitious wesay "thank you. No really, THANK YOU. THAT'S ENOUGH. Talk about something else." Putting a complaint to wikien-l pretty much guarantees it'll be looked into by multiple people. It does not, however, guarantee the desired response, and repetition doesn't work.
- d.
David Gerard wrote:
On 05/09/07, John Lee johnleemk@gmail.com wrote:
Seriously, I'm not sure why this got through. Probably because either this user was contributing nicely to the list for a while, thus being taken off moderation, or because a mod has particularly lenient standards. Usually it's the latter; I myself probably would have erred on the side of approving it. Contrary to common belief, mods are not too strict about what appears on the list; it's the *blatantly* repetitive/redundant/non-contributing stuff that we reject.
And wikien-l is an official channel of complaint. It's when it gets repetitious wesay "thank you. No really, THANK YOU. THAT'S ENOUGH. Talk about something else." Putting a complaint to wikien-l pretty much guarantees it'll be looked into by multiple people. It does not, however, guarantee the desired response, and repetition doesn't work.
I am not acquainted with the background to Flame Viper's situation, and don't particularly want to know anything about it. If his initial post to start this thread had been the only thing in the thread I would not have been likely to say anything.
When I did read it I nevertheless assumed good faith, though it is natural to assume that a person starting such a complaint will present it in a more favorable light than what might be warranted by the facts.
What disturbs me about these threads is the responses of some users who are just too quick to find fault, or who have so glued themselves to literal rules that they are unable to seek any kind of alternate resolution. One person who apparently imposed the block seems more intent on justifying his own actions than attempting any kind of reconciliation.
Ec
On 05/09/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Putting a complaint to wikien-l pretty much guarantees it'll be looked into by multiple people. It does not, however, guarantee the desired response
As a corrolary, publicly giving WMF an astonishingly large amount of money and having us loudly acknowledge it is a way to get a fully comprehensive article on your organisation.
A very, very, very *suspicious* toned article on your organisation...
Adrian wrote:
Vee schrieb:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Isn't this list moderated?
If Vee knows not to take this too far that shouldn't be necessary. After our long thread about moderation you should know that many of us like to give members some leeway instead of crying for blood on the least minor offence.
Ec
On 05/09/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Vee schrieb:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Isn't this list moderated?
If Vee knows not to take this too far that shouldn't be necessary. After our long thread about moderation you should know that many of us like to give members some leeway instead of crying for blood on the least minor offence.
Ec
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no i don't want to take this thread too far. it's just that flameviper has posted on the mailing list before about it and caused the typical arguing, drama etc.
what does he want? an apology on behalf of wikipedia? there's nothing we can *realistically* do for him. nearly every banned user feels that they are banned unfairly. he used sockpuppets abusively. what more is there to it? if he doesn't want to edit again... well, i just don't see the issue.
he was blocked nearly three months ago now.. if he wants to edit he can make an account and do so quietly. if he doesn't he should just move on.
On 06/09/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
no i don't want to take this thread too far. it's just that flameviper has posted on the mailing list before about it and caused the typical arguing, drama etc.
what does he want? an apology on behalf of wikipedia? there's nothing we can *realistically* do for him. nearly every banned user feels that they are banned unfairly. he used sockpuppets abusively. what more is there to it? if he doesn't want to edit again... well, i just don't see the issue.
he was blocked nearly three months ago now.. if he wants to edit he can make an account and do so quietly. if he doesn't he should just move on.
damn i sent that too soon. meant to write:
browsing his talk page and user page, i can't find any attacks against him (unless "this user is banned" is an attack). and the ban was justified.
On 05/09/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/09/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Vee schrieb:
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
blah blah blah
Nobody feed the troll.
Isn't this list moderated?
If Vee knows not to take this too far that shouldn't be necessary. After our long thread about moderation you should know that many of us like to give members some leeway instead of crying for blood on the least minor offence.
Ec
no i don't want to take this thread too far. it's just that flameviper has posted on the mailing list before about it and caused the typical arguing, drama etc.
Well, let's see, you did call him a troll after he clearly stated he was offended that he had been called a troll....
What is a troll? Someone who is enjoys the negative attention that comes with this sort of thing. Hey, if he enjoyed it, you'd love him as the sadist loves the masochist. And doesn't everyone love an Epicurean, who could enjoy just anything?
But then if he's not a troll, you're telling him he enjoyed the things that actually upset him, which is rather dehumanising.
what does he want? an apology on behalf of wikipedia? there's nothing we can *realistically* do for him. nearly every banned user feels that they are banned unfairly. he used sockpuppets abusively. what more is there to it? if he doesn't want to edit again... well, i just don't see the issue.
Come now, be more creative. List of things a banned user might want besides being able to edit again: * A chance to respond to criticism and/or attacks. * Removal of attacks or otherwise hurtful material via courtesy blankings/deletions. * Right to Vanish (account renaming et. al.). * A sympathetic ear. * To try to stop others from getting hurt as they have been hurt by raising awareness of the pain. * I'm sure there are other possibilities....
he was blocked nearly three months ago now.. if he wants to edit he can make an account and do so quietly. if he doesn't he should just move on.
Like I said, he might want something other than being able to edit.
You know, I sympathize with you - really, I do. I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. However, I also point out that I've been a user for about a year now, have never received a (legitimate) warning, have never been called a troll, and I get along within the Wiki policies pretty well. Some of 'em I don't like, so I take a run at changing them, within process.
Some people I don't particularly like, so I ignore them.
So, an observation from someone who doesn't know you, and hasn't looked at your record in great detail: what's the difference b/w you and I? You push the envelope. You poke people. You see a spot and stick your finger on it to see what happens. You can't just ignore someone, you want to make sure they KNOW you're there. When you do that, you get into trouble.
Just an observation. ----- Original Message ----- From: Flame Viper To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: [WikiEN-l] The more I think about my ban from Wikipedia,the more I realize how wrong it was.
Let's start out with a general explanation. I am http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flameviper . I had been contributing since May 2005 or so, with numerous crapstacles. I had been banned/unbanned about 3 times, etc, etc. I had been editing pages and such for about 3 months since unbanning when I saw a comment from the user Elaragirl. I went to her talk page to respond, and read the linked document EL:TEACUP, which (if I recall correctly) is still linked to from her talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elaragirl).
Anyways, I said something to the effect of "you're either going to be my friend or a pain in the ass, I hope for both our sakes it will be the former". Of course, both Elaragirl and I (as later cleared up via email) understood the point of the message and neither of us were offended (I asked her). However, I was banned per the personal attack policy. On AN/I, Ryanpostlewait (sorry if I spelled it wrong Ryan) posted an e-mail from me (which I thought had been private) which said something along the lines of me being a troll and trying to be good and not get banned. Of course, I meant to say something completely different, but nobody asked me about it again, and I was summarily banned.
A couple months later, I came back with another account named Two-Sixteen. This time, however, I was friendly (perhaps overly so) to everyone I saw. I made great (perhaps overly exaggerated) efforts to not offend anyone, and I got along fine with the general Wikipedia population. I edited pages, I categorized things, I didn't really do anything spectacular. One day, someone raised the issue of the account Flameviper being unblocked (maybe it was me, I don't remember). I didn't have a crusade for Flameviper to be unblocked, I simply suggested the idea and left the discussion alone (although I said "I agree" on the noticeboard). It was generally agreed that Flameviper had not done anything wrong in the first place, and so that account was unblocked. At this point, "Flameviper" was unblocked (although the account's past was still suspicious) and Two-Sixteen had never received so much as a warning for anything.
The next day, I logged on and found that Jpgordon had performed a checkuser (although without any type of process, even though I remember a lengthy process to approve requests for checkuser) and found that Flameviper and Two-Sixteen were the same person.
Two-Sixteen was indef-blocked immediately for being "disruptive" (although the account in question had never disrupted anything). Flameviper was indef-blocked immediately for "using a sockpuppet to manipulate an unblock" (which is odd, since the administrator unblocked on his own judgement).
Now here is my opinion of the entire incident.
My statement in the e-mail to Ryan (which was something along the lines of "I enjoy Internet drama" was somehow twisted into "I like to create Internet drama" and that was further bastardized into "I am a troll". And when whoever it was offered to be my mentor or whatever, I accepted the offer, which was somehow twisted into "I decline the offer". And again, TROLL. I *personally* find being banned offensive to me, but I at least realize that by banning me the admins aren't trying to be offensive and that they're just doing what they think is right. And I respect your right to have your own opinion and not sugar-coat everything you say so it won't be construed as a "PERSONAL ATTACK OH MY GOD". Because furthermore, what I said on Elaragirl's talk page was more along the lines of "When I meet someone with a similar personality to mine, we either agree on everything and it's a blast, or we have a massive conflict because we have differing opinions and we both have the rock-colid attitude that nothing is going to change our minds, and most of our decisions will conflict with one another's, and we'll end up hating each other. I hope for both of our sakes that we can learn to get along". But instead of saying that, I contracted it to "You're either going to be my friend or a pain in the ass, I hope it's going to be the first one". And because I didn't carefully sugarcoat all the pointy phrasings of my comment, it was taken as a "personal attack" by people who it wasn't even directed at (nobody even asked Elaragirl if she was offended or not), and I was banned. I'm sick of talking for an entire damn paragraph when I could say the same thing in three words, and although I realize the policies on "trolling" and "personal attacks" were intended to protect innocent users from actual trolls and flamers, they're becoming utterly ridiculous and a nuisance to everyone involved.
I joined Wikipedia to write an encyclopedia, not to have a damn soap opera every time I say something.
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Philippe Beaudette wrote:
You know, I sympathize with you - really, I do. I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. However, I also point out that I've been a user for about a year now, have never received a (legitimate) warning, have never been called a troll, and I get along within the Wiki policies pretty well. Some of 'em I don't like, so I take a run at changing them, within process.
Some people I don't particularly like, so I ignore them.
So, an observation from someone who doesn't know you, and hasn't looked at your record in great detail: what's the difference b/w you and I? You push the envelope. You poke people. You see a spot and stick your finger on it to see what happens. You can't just ignore someone, you want to make sure they KNOW you're there. When you do that, you get into trouble.
Yes. It takes more to change things than a keenly developed sense of outrage. To effect such change one cannot hope that those who are highly invested in the status quo will miraculously grasp that perfect rational argument that will destroy that status quo.
Ec
One day, someone raised the issue of the account Flameviper being unblocked (maybe it was me, I don't remember). I didn't have a crusade for Flameviper to be unblocked, I simply suggested the idea and left the discussion alone (although I said "I agree" on the noticeboard). It was generally agreed that Flameviper had not done anything wrong in the first place, and so that account was unblocked. At this point, "Flameviper" was unblocked (although the account's past was still suspicious) and Two-Sixteen had never received so much as a warning for anything.
You had two accounts. You used one to recommend the other be unblocked without making it clear you controlled both. That's abusive use of sockpuppets, and the blocks are valid.
On 05/09/07, Flame Viper flameviper12@yahoo.com wrote:
Let's start out with a general explanation. I am http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flameviper . I had been contributing since May 2005 or so, with numerous crapstacles. I had been banned/unbanned about 3 times, etc, etc. I had been editing pages and such for about 3 months since unbanning when I saw a comment from the user Elaragirl. I went to her talk page to respond, and read the linked document EL:TEACUP, which (if I recall correctly) is still linked to from her talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elaragirl).
Anyways, I said something to the effect of "you're either going to be my friend or a pain in the ass, I hope for both our sakes it will be the former". Of course, both Elaragirl and I (as later cleared up via email) understood the point of the message and neither of us were offended (I asked her). However, I was banned per the personal attack policy.
Humour is hard to detect online. According to A. Barbour, only 7% of communication is verbal (38% being vocal and 55% being body movements). Unfortunately, online, that 7% is all we have.
On AN/I, Ryanpostlewait (sorry if I spelled it wrong Ryan) posted an e-mail from me (which I thought had been private) which said something along the lines of me being a troll and trying to be good and not get banned. Of course, I meant to say something completely different, but nobody asked me about it again, and I was summarily banned.
I'm sorry to hear that.
A couple months later, I came back with another account named Two-Sixteen. This time, however, I was friendly (perhaps overly so) to everyone I saw. I made great (perhaps overly exaggerated) efforts to not offend anyone, and I got along fine with the general Wikipedia population. I edited pages, I categorized things, I didn't really do anything spectacular. One day, someone raised the issue of the account Flameviper being unblocked (maybe it was me, I don't remember). I didn't have a crusade for Flameviper to be unblocked, I simply suggested the idea and left the discussion alone (although I said "I agree" on the noticeboard). It was generally agreed that Flameviper had not done anything wrong in the first place, and so that account was unblocked. At this point, "Flameviper" was unblocked (although the account's past was still suspicious) and Two-Sixteen had never received so much as a warning for anything.
That's technically against the banning policy, but I suppose you probably didn't read that? Anyway, sorry to hear.
The next day, I logged on and found that Jpgordon had performed a checkuser (although without any type of process, even though I remember a lengthy process to approve requests for checkuser) and found that Flameviper and Two-Sixteen were the same person.
Two-Sixteen was indef-blocked immediately for being "disruptive" (although the account in question had never disrupted anything). Flameviper was indef-blocked immediately for "using a sockpuppet to manipulate an unblock" (which is odd, since the administrator unblocked on his own judgement).
Now here is my opinion of the entire incident.
My statement in the e-mail to Ryan (which was something along the lines of "I enjoy Internet drama" was somehow twisted into "I like to create Internet drama" and that was further bastardized into "I am a troll". And when whoever it was offered to be my mentor or whatever, I accepted the offer, which was somehow twisted into "I decline the offer". And again, TROLL. I *personally* find being banned offensive to me, but I at least realize that by banning me the admins aren't trying to be offensive and that they're just doing what they think is right. And I respect your right to have your own opinion and not sugar-coat everything you say so it won't be construed as a "PERSONAL ATTACK OH MY GOD". Because furthermore, what I said on Elaragirl's talk page was more along the lines of "When I meet someone with a similar personality to mine, we either agree on everything and it's a blast, or we have a massive conflict because we have differing opinions and we both have the rock-colid attitude that nothing is going to change our minds, and most of our decisions will conflict with one another's, and we'll end up hating each other. I hope for both of our sakes that we can learn to get along". But instead of saying that, I contracted it to "You're either going to be my friend or a pain in the ass, I hope it's going to be the first one". And because I didn't carefully sugarcoat all the pointy phrasings of my comment, it was taken as a "personal attack" by people who it wasn't even directed at (nobody even asked Elaragirl if she was offended or not), and I was banned. I'm sick of talking for an entire damn paragraph when I could say the same thing in three words, and although I realize the policies on "trolling" and "personal attacks" were intended to protect innocent users from actual trolls and flamers, they're becoming utterly ridiculous and a nuisance to everyone involved.
I joined Wikipedia to write an encyclopedia, not to have a damn soap opera every time I say something.
If you really were a troll, they'd love you.
Any way, I'm sorry things didn't go well for you.
*hug*