RickK has deleted his own talk page. I think it should be undeleted, and RickK should be de-sysop'ed.
Rhobite
Yes! Clearly desysopping him will fix everything!
-Snowspinner
On Jun 21, 2005, at 12:38 AM, Rhobite wrote:
RickK has deleted his own talk page. I think it should be undeleted, and RickK should be de-sysop'ed.
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On 6/20/05, Rhobite rhobite@gmail.com wrote:
RickK has deleted his own talk page. I think it should be undeleted, and RickK should be de-sysop'ed.
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Rho, that is the dumbest thing I've heard in this whole silly mess
It was just a suggestion, there is no need for you to act like a child. I think blanking one's talk page is fine but deleting a record of over 11,000 edits is not OK. RickK has been involved in Wikipedia for years - his deletion destroys a good amount of notes, chat, evidence, and information. If a normal user left, would we let them speedy delete their own talk page? Not without discussion, at least.
Rhobite
On 6/21/05, blankfaze blankfaze@gmail.com wrote:
Rho, that is the dumbest thing I've heard in this whole silly mess
-- ! blankfaze *the good times are killing me*
I agree, a not on his user page to show he's left is okay, but you can't delete your talk page just as you can't delete your edits.
-Mgm
On 6/21/05, Rhobite rhobite@gmail.com wrote:
It was just a suggestion, there is no need for you to act like a child. I think blanking one's talk page is fine but deleting a record of over 11,000 edits is not OK. RickK has been involved in Wikipedia for years - his deletion destroys a good amount of notes, chat, evidence, and information. If a normal user left, would we let them speedy delete their own talk page? Not without discussion, at least.
Rhobite
On 6/21/05, blankfaze blankfaze@gmail.com wrote:
Rho, that is the dumbest thing I've heard in this whole silly mess
-- ! blankfaze *the good times are killing me*
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From: Rhobite rhobite@gmail.com
RickK has deleted his own talk page. I think it should be undeleted, and RickK should be de-sysop'ed.
Other admins have deleted their own Talk: and User: pages upon leaving without sanction or even comment. Other editors have had their Talk: and User: pages deleted for them upon leaving, and have subsequently returned without having them restored.
Jay.
They did? I don't think it's right to delete user talk pages when they contain significant amounts of discussion. So those deserve as much attention as Rick's page. I don't think Rick needs to be sanctioned for it, though. But I doubt he'd mind de-sysoping if he's serious about leaving.
--Mgm
On 6/21/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Rhobite rhobite@gmail.com
RickK has deleted his own talk page. I think it should be undeleted, and RickK should be de-sysop'ed.
Other admins have deleted their own Talk: and User: pages upon leaving without sanction or even comment. Other editors have had their Talk: and User: pages deleted for them upon leaving, and have subsequently returned without having them restored.
Jay.
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They did?
Yes.
I don't think it's right to delete user talk pages when they contain significant amounts of discussion. So those deserve as much attention as Rick's page.
What kind of attention, and from whom?
I don't think Rick needs to be sanctioned for it, though. But I doubt he'd mind de-sysoping if he's serious about leaving.
I think de-sysopping would be like kicking him when he's down. Most people who leave when upset return anyway.
Jay.
On 6/21/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
I think de-sysopping would be like kicking him when he's down. Most people who leave when upset return anyway.
Agreed here, we should just restore the page and only consider desysoping if shows malicious intent by continuing to redelete the page.
Gregory Maxwell a écrit:
On 6/21/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
I think de-sysopping would be like kicking him when he's down. Most people who leave when upset return anyway.
Agreed here, we should just restore the page and only consider desysoping if shows malicious intent by continuing to redelete the page.
The page should be undeleted because it is under GFDL. Rick deleting his page should absolutely not be an argument for punishment. He is just upset. Let him the time to cool down :-)
If there's more people who deleted talk pages with significant content, then I think that should be adressed. We should ask the community at large if they need to be undeleted.
--Mgm
On 6/21/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
From: MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com
They did?
Yes.
I don't think it's right to delete user talk pages when they contain significant amounts of discussion. So those deserve as much attention as Rick's page.
What kind of attention, and from whom?
I don't think Rick needs to be sanctioned for it, though. But I doubt he'd mind de-sysoping if he's serious about leaving.
I think de-sysopping would be like kicking him when he's down. Most people who leave when upset return anyway.
Jay.
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If there's more people who deleted talk pages with significant content, then I think that should be adressed. We should ask the community at large if they need to be undeleted.
O.K. You can start with User talk:Xed - 371 deleted edits there.
Would you extend this to User pages with extensive edits?
Jay.
No, userpages don't usually contain information by other users, but I'd strongly recommend users intent on leaving to leave them up (for example, I'd hate for CryptoDerk to pull his userpage - and all the links to his vandal fighter in the process - if he ever decided on leaving). Since leaving users can't delete earlier votes or comments from other people's talk pages, it stands to reason discussion on their own talk page should remain as a historic record too.
--Mgm
On 6/22/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
From: MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com
If there's more people who deleted talk pages with significant content, then I think that should be adressed. We should ask the community at large if they need to be undeleted.
O.K. You can start with User talk:Xed - 371 deleted edits there.
Would you extend this to User pages with extensive edits?
Jay.
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