In a message dated 6/27/2007 1:24:06 AM Central Daylight Time, cunctator@gmail.com writes:

About how to do *everything*?

Don't you recognize that *you're a newbie*?

You are in fact arguing that we should scrap policies and guidelines because you, the comparative newbie, think you have good ideas.

You are also arguing that we should *not* scrap policies and guidelines.

Which one is it?

I'm reminded of Dana Perino now.

I believe you are misinterpreting my comments (understandable, as I'll explain below). If you want specific examples as to why the mailing list involves more knee jerk reactions, then that's a good one. Clearly, I didn't edit that e-mail well enough ("do everything" was a silly comment on my part), and I think you did the same (misinterpreting what I said and making a few rather b old comments).

I assumed it was obvious that "so we should scrap policies and guidelines" was not my position, because it was hypothetical. Also, there is a difference between rewriting/modifying policies and scrapping them. We should *not* scrap policies and guidelines; we should *rewrite and update* them as Wikipedia evolves. The WP:FICT rewrite attempts to take the essense of the main notability guideline (as well as parts of the current WP:FICT) and combine it with good practices in day-to-day treatment of fiction.

Our exchanges are probably bordering on incivility, so I say we call it a night/day and revisit this issue later (and I need to get some sleep, since my uneven articulation and wordiness might be due to sleep deprivation). I think we both have some valid points, but I can probably get mine across easier and understand yours better in a day or two. Then perhaps we can work toward discussing the actual rewrite and perhaps a compromise between the current version and the rewrite, if you are interested.

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