We have a serious problem with a new user, Simonides. The man is out of control. On multiple articles Simonides has attempted to take ownership of articles. He then attacks many other contributors with ad homenim attacks, slanders them, reverts all of their edits, deletes large chunks of texts from articles, and then refuses to engage in any productive discussions on the talk page.
Steve Rubenstein, Jayjg, I and others have repeatedly tried to explain the NPOV policy to him, and tried to explain that articles evolve by consensu. He responds by childish remarks and reverts.
Simonides has damaged the consensus reached by many contributors on the Philosophy article. Trying to avoid a confrontation, I kept 90% of his overhaul, and made only minor edits and minor additions...and he began a revert war and falsely accused me of vandalism.
He has repeatedly demonstrated the same behaviour towards many other users. Steve Rubenstein repeatedly tried to reason with Simonides, but Simonides rebuffed all communication, and launched into ad homenim attacks such as "It is impossible to work with people who adopt such a juvenile approach. Slrubenstein, you don't seem to have the faintest idea of what is going on."
Simonides has damaged articles on anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism, and philosophy, and refused to follow the consensus, and disparaged NPOV policy. Bizarrely, he keeps shoving in Muslim and Christian religious apologetics into articles with have nothing to do with the subject.
While many people with different ideas have been able to work together to come to a consensus on all three of these difficult topics (anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism, and philosophy) Simonides alone has wreaked such havoc in recent days that we are at a loss for what to do.
I suggest talking to Jayjg about this issue; he has been abused more than the rest of us. When Jayjg patiently explained for the tenth time what NPOV policy was, and why certain edits were made, Simonides angrilly replied "Do you even stop to consider what you're saying before typing a string of hot air remarks you can't even back up?" He simply makes no effort to work with anyone, and uses bullying to force POV edits to articles that otherwise have reached a wide consensus. That is a horrible precedent.
In the past, such behaviour was reason enough for a one week ban, with a warning that a similar ban will follow if the person refuses to change their behaviour.
Robert (RK)
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On 07/15/04 04:31, Robert wrote:
We have a serious problem with a new user, Simonides. The
No, you have a serious problem with him, and he has one with you.
I chatted to him on IRC last night (I fear I SHOUTED A LOT) strongly suggesting you lot take it to mediation. You've been at least as bad as him on the articles in question. I suggest you start on a mediation with him as well.
Remember: first one to get on with it gets the credibility points.
- d.
On 07/15/04 07:31, David Gerard wrote:
On 07/15/04 04:31, Robert wrote:
We have a serious problem with a new user, Simonides. The
No, you have a serious problem with him, and he has one with you. I chatted to him on IRC last night (I fear I SHOUTED A LOT) strongly suggesting you lot take it to mediation. You've been at least as bad as him on the articles in question. I suggest you start on a mediation with him as well. Remember: first one to get on with it gets the credibility points.
Ah, looks like he can take some advice and try to resolve things.
Probably the most effective thing you could do at this point is pursue the mediation in good faith at this point. For the good of the articles.
- d.