On 5/7/05, Sheldon Rampton sheldon@prwatch.org wrote:
I see that someone has already written a Wikipedia widget for the dashboard on the new OS X 10.4 ("Tiger") release for the Macintosh:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/dashboard/wikipedia.html
Sheldon, interesting that you should mention Mac and Wikipedia. I've had some trouble with Wikipedia/Safari compatibility. I was running Jaguar until a few months ago, which meant I was restricted to Safari 1.2. Whenever I edited or even previewed a WP page with accents, Safari changed them all, so I had to stop using it. Then someone on this list said this was a problem only with 1.2 but 1.3 had fixed it. I liked Safari so much as a browser that I upgraded to Panther so that I could use Safari 1.3. and it did fix the accent problem, but is so slow to get into WP that I've had to abandon it again. All the other browers I use (Netscape, Opera, Firefox) get into WP considerably faster than Safari 1.3 (which sometimes just hangs and never makes it, and when it does, I get lots of spinning pizzas if I try to open multiple windows), whereas Safari 1.2 seemed as fast as the others.
Now I'm wondering whether it would make any difference if I upgraded to Tiger.
Sarah
On May 7, 2005, at 2:58 PM, slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
Sheldon, interesting that you should mention Mac and Wikipedia. I've had some trouble with Wikipedia/Safari compatibility. I was running Jaguar until a few months ago, which meant I was restricted to Safari 1.2. Whenever I edited or even previewed a WP page with accents, Safari changed them all, so I had to stop using it. Then someone on this list said this was a problem only with 1.2 but 1.3 had fixed it. I liked Safari so much as a browser that I upgraded to Panther so that I could use Safari 1.3. and it did fix the accent problem, but is so slow to get into WP that I've had to abandon it again. All the other browers I use (Netscape, Opera, Firefox) get into WP considerably faster than Safari 1.3 (which sometimes just hangs and never makes it, and when it does, I get lots of spinning pizzas if I try to open multiple windows), whereas Safari 1.2 seemed as fast as the others.
Now I'm wondering whether it would make any difference if I upgraded to Tiger.
A few weeks ago, Apple pushed out an update to Panther's Safari that solved some Javascript performance problems I had been seeing earlier (in particular, history pages could be horribly slow before the update). If that version is fast enough, then yay. As always your mileage may vary.
It would _not_ be worth your while to upgrade to Tiger for that, because the latest Panther Safari's innards and the version that ships with Tiger are, according to Apple, identical (and in real life they do seem to be performing the same).
On 5/7/05, iMeowbot iMeowbot@mac.com wrote:
A few weeks ago, Apple pushed out an update to Panther's Safari that solved some Javascript performance problems I had been seeing earlier (in particular, history pages could be horribly slow before the update). If that version is fast enough, then yay. As always your mileage may vary.
It would _not_ be worth your while to upgrade to Tiger for that ...
Thank you, IM, that's very helpful. I think I do have the latest version of Safari, but the problems are multiple. If I have more than one browser window open, I get the closing pizza when I try to close them, and I have to force quit. It can barely get into Wikipedia's main page. Very slow to get into history, unbearably slow to do diffs. WP apart, it can't seem to find files that I want to attach to e-mails (it just says "local string not found"); the same when e.g. I download a music file from Amazon to listen to (local string not found). And various other problems I won't go into, but none of which I had with Safari 1.2 - except with 1.2, whenever I edited a page with accents, I'd leave behind a trail of red links and weird symbols where the acutes and umlauts used to be. ;-)
Sarah
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slimvirgin@gmail.com (slimvirgin@gmail.com) [050508 04:58]:
On 5/7/05, Sheldon Rampton sheldon@prwatch.org wrote:
I see that someone has already written a Wikipedia widget for the dashboard on the new OS X 10.4 ("Tiger") release for the Macintosh: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/dashboard/wikipedia.html
Sheldon, interesting that you should mention Mac and Wikipedia. I've had some trouble with Wikipedia/Safari compatibility. I was running Jaguar until a few months ago, which meant I was restricted to Safari 1.2. Whenever I edited or even previewed a WP page with accents, Safari changed them all, so I had to stop using it. Then someone on this list said this was a problem only with 1.2 but 1.3 had fixed it. I liked Safari so much as a browser that I upgraded to Panther so that I could use Safari 1.3. and it did fix the accent problem, but is so slow to get into WP that I've had to abandon it again. All the other browers I use (Netscape, Opera, Firefox) get into WP considerably faster than Safari 1.3 (which sometimes just hangs and never makes it, and when it does, I get lots of spinning pizzas if I try to open multiple windows), whereas Safari 1.2 seemed as fast as the others. Now I'm wondering whether it would make any difference if I upgraded to Tiger.
That strikes me as odd, seeing as Brion uses a PowerBook and so presumably does development work on MediaWiki on it ... Brion? (anyone?)
- d.