-----Original Message----- From: Leif Knutsen [mailto:vyerllc@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:03 PM

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I do appreciate the need to enforce rules and be consistent about it, but I also think that a) a warning is in order before blocking someone; b) the person who is being blocked should have some means of defending his/her actions; and c) it should always raise flags in a situation like this, when the person (an admin) whose deletions were reverted reported the reverts; and another, who only a few weeks before had lost a dispute with me, jumped at the opportunity to block me.

All that sounds pretty reasonable to me. If you ever need to be unblocked, shoot me an e-mail or leave a message at my talk page.

I helped WRITE the guidelines for "when to block" and we all agreed back then that there are one or two steps that ought to be taken before a block.

1. Talk to the person. Explain the situation. Make a polite request.

2. If they persist in violating a RULE after you have (a) explained it AND (b) warned them that another violation will result in a block; THEN you may do the block.

I think I speak for the entire community on this. (If there have been changes, while I wasn't watching, no doubt maveric169 or Anthere or someone on the Arbitration Committee will set me straight, but I had thought these principles were written in stone.)

Once again, if you have any trouble, just let me know.

Ed Poor Wikipedia's First Elected Bureaucrat Mailing List Admin Emeritus Developer Emeritus (and all-around nice guy)