On 23 May 2007 at 21:36:12 +0000, "Fred Bauder" fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
Consensus never trumps policy.
I thought policy was made by consensus?
On 5/25/07, Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name wrote:
Consensus never trumps policy.
I thought policy was made by consensus?
SSSH, don't tell anybody.
On 25/05/07, Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name wrote:
On 23 May 2007 at 21:36:12 +0000, "Fred Bauder" fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
Consensus never trumps policy.
I thought policy was made by consensus?
Neutrality, no original research and verifiability are not trumpable by consensus, or even WP:CONSENSUS.
- d.
On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 05:44:51AM +0100, David Gerard wrote:
Neutrality, no original research and verifiability are not trumpable by consensus, or even WP:CONSENSUS.
You're stretching here. WP:V and WP:NOR are en.wikipedia policies, not foundation principles, and could certainly be overridden or overthrown by sufficient consensus. They were established by consensus and derive their authority from consensus anyway. I believe it is the case that en.wp is rare amoung projects in having a verifiability policy at all.
One foundation issue that hasn't been mentioned in this discussion is the "wiki process" as a central method of deciding content.
- Carl
If by "consensus" you mean "the largest group appear on an issue with a singular agenda", this would be correct. "Consensus" is like the Holy Grail. It's always out of reach, and odds are good it doesn't exist in the first place.
Daniel R. Tobias wrote:
I thought policy was made by consensus?