Timwi wrote:
(1) The reasons Rick already mentioned. (2) WikiMoney didn't work either. (3) People will start doing certain things (e.g. make loads of trivial edits to the article namespace) *just* to get (one of) these awards, and then genuinely think they are entitled to (one of) these awards. (4) Community recognition works best when it is not measurable. I can say with certainty that Anthere is more popular on Wikipedia than a
vandal, but I can't rank her with other people. If she were awarded
a "Wikipedia peace prize" and, say, Angela wasn't, then this would create an artificial (and deceptive) ranking between them.
My thoughts: (1) The competitive will always be with us. They will always vie for all the prizes. That does not mean we should stop giving them. It will be very difficult to compete for the "Least Competitive Wikipedian" award. And the more prizes the merrier. It is very nearly as easy to fool adults as it is to fool children, and even when knowingly fooled, both adults and children still value the recognition, except for the occasional curmudgeon who is offended by any recognition of any sort. (2) WikiMoney was patent nonsense. It served as a medium of exchange for, um, well, errrrr...help me out here. Because "red" didn't work doesn't mean "47" won't either, if I'm not making too dense a point. (3) It's not hard to spot trivial edits by those who (like me) check edits, and I'm sure it will be no harder for those who count them. People who make a zillion trivial edits with the expectation of a pat on the back need a reality check more than a reward. My guess is that a goodly percentage of them will fall under topic (1), and know perfectly well what they're doing, and why they should get a poke in the butt with a sharp stick instead of a lovely PDF they can print & hang. (4) Always. This month's number is "3". We deem three people worthy for nicest Wikipedia:Faces faces. The fuzzy bunny award goes back to its perpetual holder, Anthere. (5) It is always easier to not say something nice than to say something nice. It is always easier to not reward than to reward. It is always almost as much fun when someone you like gets recognition as when you do yourself. We are a community, so let's reward each other just for being here. I give you all the Participant of the Month Award for taking the time to be on the mailing list and not just an editor. You rock!!
Denni
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Denni wrote:
Timwi wrote:
(1) The reasons Rick already mentioned. (2) WikiMoney didn't work either. (3) People will start doing certain things (e.g. make loads of trivial edits to the article namespace) *just* to get (one of) these awards, and then genuinely think they are entitled to (one of) these awards. (4) Community recognition works best when it is not measurable. I can say with certainty that Anthere is more popular on Wikipedia than a vandal, but I can't rank her with other people. If she were awarded a "Wikipedia peace prize" and, say, Angela wasn't, then this would create an artificial (and deceptive) ranking between them.
My thoughts: (1) The competitive will always be with us. They will always vie for all the prizes. That does not mean we should stop giving them. It will be very difficult to compete for the "Least Competitive Wikipedian" award. And the more prizes the merrier. It is very nearly as easy to fool adults as it is to fool children, and even when knowingly fooled, both adults and children still value the recognition, except for the occasional curmudgeon who is offended by any recognition of any sort.
I agree with this. I also think wikipedia is badly missing opportunities to show others we appreciate their work, and making our pleasure visible publicly.
(4) Always. This month's number is "3". We deem three people worthy for nicest Wikipedia:Faces faces. The fuzzy bunny award goes back to its perpetual holder, Anthere.
:-)
-- •"The difference between extra-marital sex and extra marital sex is not to be sneezed at." --George Will, on hyphen use
I am not sure I understood this one....
Anthere wrote:
I think wikipedia is badly missing opportunities to show others we appreciate their work, and making our pleasure visible publicly.
Can't you just put something on their user talk page, or even their user page, or post to the mailing list, or anything? It's not like there's no way to say something, you know.
Timwi
Timwi wrote:
Anthere wrote:
I think wikipedia is badly missing opportunities to show others we appreciate their work, and making our pleasure visible publicly.
Can't you just put something on their user talk page, or even their user page, or post to the mailing list, or anything? It's not like there's no way to say something, you know.
Timwi
We'll discuss of this again, next time a good editor leaves Wikipedia in dispair ...
Anthere wrote:
Timwi wrote:
Anthere wrote:
I think wikipedia is badly missing opportunities to show others we appreciate their work, and making our pleasure visible publicly.
Can't you just put something on their user talk page, or even their user page, or post to the mailing list, or anything? It's not like there's no way to say something, you know.
Timwi
We'll discuss of this again, next time a good editor leaves Wikipedia in dispair ...
It would be good to see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Great_editing_in_progress
used more.
This a public way of thanking people that complements "private" thanks messages such as messages on user talk pages. A barnstar is another way of thanking people.
Pete/Pcb21