I believe we've been through this before, and your position has been thoroughly refuted.
Wrong. I was the one who provided all evidence. You must be an ignorant American.
You have essentially tried to claim any assertions that there was violence against Muslims by Hindus is "communist propaganda",
You are either a liar or an ignorant fool. I pointed out that the violence began when the train was firebombed by Muslims. You REFUSE to accept it. The resulting riots had casualties on both sides. The view you support is called a conspiracy theory.
It is full of fictional claims about Government planning and hatching conspiracies to ethnically cleanse Muslims. Which is a lie. Provide proof for it if you believe it to be the case.
due to the fact that at least one person made such allegations was, several decades ago, a candidate for president on a Marxist ticket.
Shows the typical American ignorance again. VR Krishna Iyer contested regular elections in his youth and when he ran for President, he had already retired after leading a life as a Marxist. Your ignorance shows again. It wasn't decades ago (not in plural). Besides, none of you American morons, nor the kids knew anything about India before 1990 and were learning from my posts.
Besides, it wasn't ONE person. The entire organzation consists of Communists. I proved this many times. I have asked this question before and I ask again - if you want to take their statements as facts, I think it is fair to use their statements and allegations against USA too! Why not? Or do you have different standards for White skinned people?
You then tried to rewrite the article with a hardline Hindu nationalist take on the events, one that would not be accepted by any newspaper, barring some of the radical ones in India.
Your hatred and jealousy shows here. There is nothing called Hindu nationalism. That is a myth. The fact is that Islam indulges in terrorism all over the world and sometimes, even tolerant people hit back. The typical white skinned American refuses to accept this and roots for Islam because it is a religion of the book and pagans are low lives.
You were not "clearly superior"---
I am superior and you are inferior. India now has a Communist coalition whether you accept it or not.
Consider the facts I support and the ones you support.
The train at Godhra was firebombed by Muslims. (You refuse to accept this.) This resulted in Hindu-Muslim riots. (you insist this is not the case and all casualties were Muslims and it was the result of a conspiracy hatched by Hindus.) According to you the statements made in that chain mail were accurate while I point out that the journalist named as an eyewitness refuted it.
your writing was inaccurate,
My writing was 100% accurate. You come across as a fool by spewing Communist propaganda and claiming that Muslim terrorism is terrorism only if White skinned Americans are killed.
and you are simply trying to spew hardline nationalist propaganda on Wikipedia.
I am not a nationalist. I am an anarchist.
Your attacks on your opponents for being "communists" or "communist supporters" are becoming rather tiresome.
For someone who gets brainwashed by Fox TV, your view is understandable, but despite your strident assertions, India has Communists and the Govt in power is run by a Communist coalition. Your ignorance is amazing.
Yet, this is typical American behavior. The whole world is seen through religions and conflicts. If White skinned people are killed by Muslims, it is the fault of Muslims, otherwise it is the fault of pagans! Disgusting to say the least. At least learn to look around you and I am sure there will be Indians around you. Check out how they keep to themselves and are quiet. Then look at Muslims around you and you will see them demanding their pound of flesh and creating conflicts.
-libertarian
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libertarian wrote:
I believe we've been through this before, and your position has been thoroughly refuted.
Wrong. I was the one who provided all evidence. You must be an ignorant American.
Our self-professed libertarian friend is remarkable for his inconsistencies. At one mement he appears to be carrying a battle against the ignorance of the American right, and blaming Americans for not seeing or understanding what is going on in their own country. Then, scarcely pausing for breath, he makes pronouncements about India that would make an American extremist proud if it were said about his own country. His attitudes about his own India appear to parallel those same attitudes that he would consider ignorant if said by an American about his country. This is hardly a strong basis for claiming a superior intellect. There are stories in the Gospels (beam in the eye, throwing the first stone) that deal with these situations, but it would not be appropriate for an effectively atheist individual to be invoking Christian sources.
I am superior and you are inferior. India now has a Communist coalition whether you accept it or not. ... and you are simply trying to spew hardline nationalist
propaganda on Wikipedia.
I am not a nationalist. I am an anarchist.
There we have it. That point has been superbly exhibited.
Your attacks on your opponents for being "communists" or "communist supporters" are becoming rather tiresome.
For someone who gets brainwashed by Fox TV, your view is understandable, but despite your strident assertions, India has Communists and the Govt in power is run by a Communist coalition. Your ignorance is amazing.
You mean it isn't being run by the Congress Party?
Yet, this is typical American behavior. The whole world is seen through religions and conflicts. If White skinned people are killed by Muslims, it is the fault of Muslims, otherwise it is the fault of pagans! Disgusting to say the least. At least learn to look around you and I am sure there will be Indians around you. Check out how they keep to themselves and are quiet. Then look at Muslims around you and you will see them demanding their pound of flesh and creating conflicts.
Of course, locally two Indians are on trial for the bombing of an Air India passenger plane off the coast of Ireland, and for another bomb that killed two baggage handlers at Narita Airport in Japan. These two defendants are not Muslims.
It's unfortunate that the reforms of Indian religion undertaken by Gotama were not a complete success.
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From: "libertarian" libertarian@myway.com Reply-To: libertarian@myway.com, English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:15:59 -0400 (EDT) To: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Wikipedia's coverage of 1973 Chilean coup
There is nothing called Hindu nationalism. That is a myth.
To whom it may concern,
I would like to request that 'libertarian' be banned from this mailing list, as he is incapable of engaging in civilized discussion.
Certainly disagreements are acceptable, but repeatedly referring to other users as "morons" and declaring that one is superior to all other participants in the discussion is unacceptable.
Thank you, Mark [[en:User:Delirium]]
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libertarian wrote:
You must be an ignorant American.
... You are either a liar or an ignorant fool.
... Shows the typical American ignorance again. Besides, none of you American morons, nor the kids knew anything about India before 1990 and were learning from my posts.
I am superior and you are inferior.
--- Delirium delirium@hackish.org wrote:
To whom it may concern,
I would like to request that 'libertarian' be banned from this mailing list, as he is incapable of engaging in civilized discussion.
Certainly disagreements are acceptable, but repeatedly referring to other users as "morons" and declaring that one is superior to all other participants in the discussion is unacceptable.
I agree with this 100%.
--mav
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--- Delirium delirium@hackish.org wrote:
To whom it may concern,
I would like to request that 'libertarian' be banned from this mailing list, as he is incapable of engaging in civilized discussion.
Certainly disagreements are acceptable, but repeatedly referring to other users as "morons" and declaring that one is superior to all other participants in the discussion is unacceptable.
I agree with this 100%.
--mav
Dittoe. I'd already decided with going with the delete button, but I don't see any reason anybody at all should have to suffer even going through the motions with this guy.