On Mar 20, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Slim Virgin wrote: I am not so sure, SlimVirgin. This is what he writes. He calls ATT a "monumentally bad idea". What needs to be clarified is that the distintions between V, RS and OR not only have been maintained in WP:ATT, but their formulation synchronized with one another as well. -- Jossi <snip> I take virtually no position on the details of WP:ATT. I think that it probably was a more or less accurate merger of the three separate policies. But merging three separate policies into one, even when that change is not intended to make any actual policy change, is not trivial and in this particular a monumentally bad idea. All over the site are hundreds or thousands of links to these policy pages, and the meaning of referring someone to WP:V versus WP:RS versus WP:NOR are overwhelmingly important to a coherent understanding of the arguments people are making. We must not merge these separate concepts, or we have no means of distinguishing them. Not everything is the same thing.--Jimbo Wales 15:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC) </snip> _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Exactly, and I hope when he realizes that he'll reconsider what he did today. I do think it was based on a misunderstanding prompted by the discussion on the list about the Langan article.

On 3/21/07, stevertigo &lt;stvrtg(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: No, it is not "Jimbo's website"; please do not continue to spread this misinformation. And Jimmy is not Chair of the Board, Florence Devouard is.

On 3/21/07, Phil Sandifer &lt;Snowspinner(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: There is no legal basis to any role Jimmy has in the English Wikipedia (and which the community, not the Board, permits him to exercise). Wikipedia is not "Jimmy's website" by any measure, be it ownership, representation, or legal control. That is misinformation. >

This may be true in the United States; it is certainly not true in the European Union, for example, where Florence and chapter representatives are increasingly the first point of contact.

Try a Google News search on their names. It's a fun game - you get about 750 hits for Jimmy and about 8 for Anthere.

This really is just worthless nitpicking on your point. In terms of policy on en, Jimbo does have a special role as, to use a phrase we haven't in a while, God King.

On Mar 20, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > There is no legal basis to any role Jimmy has in the English Wikipedia > (and which the community, not the Board, permits him to exercise). > Wikipedia is not "Jimmy's website" by any measure, be it ownership, > representation, or legal control. That is misinformation.

No, it is not "Jimbo's website"; please do not continue to spread this misinformation. And Jimmy is not Chair of the Board, Florence Devouard is.

Its important to remember that Wikipedia is Jimbo's website. It doesnt matter if he is right or wrong on any particular issue. What matters is that we follow his leadership and do so promptly

the project would likely fall to pieces without him.

Who after is all is in a better position to formulate and implement policy changes? It is his job alone to tell the community what policy stands on Wikipedia, and how best to implement such. He after all is not just Wikipedia's founder, but its Editor in Chief, Chairman of the Board, and spokesperson.

On 3/20/07, Slim Virgin &lt;slimvirgin(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Its important to remember that Wikipedia is Jimbo's website. It doesnt matter if he is right or wrong on any particular issue. What matters is that we follow his leadership and do so promptly, simply because the project would likely fall to pieces without him. Who after is all is in a better position to formulate and implement policy changes? It is his job alone to tell the community what policy stands on Wikipedia, and how best to implement such. He after all is not just Wikipedia's founder, but its Editor in Chief, Chairman of the Board, and spokesperson. -Stevertigo _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Its important to remember that Wikipedia is Jimbo's website. It doesnt matter if he is right or wrong on any particular issue. What matters is that we follow his leadership and do so promptly, simply because the project would likely fall to pieces without him.

I think it's his website mostly in the sense that the Linux kernel is Linus's. It's really everybody's kernel, but everybody follows Linus's lead because he leads pretty well.

This is what he writes. He calls ATT a "monumentally bad idea".