Has anyone seen this on Digg? They're giving away $200 for the best wiki page design. Sounds like an opportunity for Wikipedians to make some easy cash...
http://digg.com/design/Centiare_Prize_2007_cash_for_best_wiki_designs
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On 6/14/07, Jamie Cooper newwikifan@yahoo.com wrote:
Has anyone seen this on Digg? They're giving away $200 for the best wiki page design. Sounds like an opportunity for Wikipedians to make some easy cash...
http://digg.com/design/Centiare_Prize_2007_cash_for_best_wiki_designs
Wait a second, is that poster MyWikiBiz?
Rory
On 14/06/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/14/07, Jamie Cooper newwikifan@yahoo.com wrote:
Has anyone seen this on Digg? They're giving away $200 for the best wiki page design. Sounds like an opportunity for Wikipedians to make some easy cash...
http://digg.com/design/Centiare_Prize_2007_cash_for_best_wiki_designs
Wait a second, is that poster MyWikiBiz?
Yes, that's him.
On 14/06/07, Rory Stolzenberg rory096@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/14/07, Jamie Cooper newwikifan@yahoo.com wrote:
Has anyone seen this on Digg? They're giving away $200 for the best wiki page design. Sounds like an opportunity for Wikipedians to make some easy cash... http://digg.com/design/Centiare_Prize_2007_cash_for_best_wiki_designs
Wait a second, is that poster MyWikiBiz?
Centiare is Gregory Kohs' site.
- d.
On 6/14/07, Jamie Cooper newwikifan@yahoo.com wrote:
Has anyone seen this on Digg? They're giving away $200 for the best wiki page design. Sounds like an opportunity for Wikipedians to make some easy cash...
http://digg.com/design/Centiare_Prize_2007_cash_for_best_wiki_designs
Heh...
"We shall declare the 'independence' of the world's best wiki editors from the 'free labor' tyranny they have likely found elsewhere to date." (from the "source" link)
Someone apparently hasn't gotten enough barnstars...
-- Jonel
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:18:35 -0700 (PDT), Jamie Cooper newwikifan@yahoo.com wrote:
http://digg.com/design/Centiare_Prize_2007_cash_for_best_wiki_designs
Redux: other methods having conspicuously failed, Gregory Kohs is now trying bribery.
His fundamental problem is, in my view, that volunteer article writers don't see much mileage in contributing to a project where the subject gets the final say in the content - what is the attraction of carefully documenting a company, warts and all, if the company's PR people have a right of veto? Of course some people will sign up to promote their own interests, we get that on Wikipedia as well, but these people do not generally make good contributors because they have no real interest outside of their own financial gain.
I was on the Centiare front page at one point, because I opined that the project was dead in the water. Kohs' riposte was to post a slightly selective Alexa traffic graph showing a sudden growth. Extending the axis back a month showed that the peak was no better than the previous peak, from which it had dropped off very sharply, and last time I checked Alexa the traffic over the last few months was low and flat. Who needs a project which exists to document what companies want said about themselves? For this we have Google.
Guy (JzG)
On 6/14/07, Guy Chapman aka JzG guy.chapman@spamcop.net wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:18:35 -0700 (PDT), Jamie Cooper newwikifan@yahoo.com wrote:
http://digg.com/design/Centiare_Prize_2007_cash_for_best_wiki_designs
Redux: other methods having conspicuously failed, Gregory Kohs is now trying bribery.
His fundamental problem is, in my view, that volunteer article writers don't see much mileage in contributing to a project where the subject gets the final say in the content - what is the attraction of carefully documenting a company, warts and all, if the company's PR people have a right of veto? Of course some people will sign up to promote their own interests, we get that on Wikipedia as well, but these people do not generally make good contributors because they have no real interest outside of their own financial gain.
I was on the Centiare front page at one point, because I opined that the project was dead in the water. Kohs' riposte was to post a slightly selective Alexa traffic graph showing a sudden growth. Extending the axis back a month showed that the peak was no better than the previous peak, from which it had dropped off very sharply, and last time I checked Alexa the traffic over the last few months was low and flat. Who needs a project which exists to document what companies want said about themselves? For this we have Google.
Guy (JzG)
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG
... and I actually participated in Centiare at one point. Oh well. ~~~~
On 6/14/07, Guy Chapman aka JzG guy.chapman@spamcop.net wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:18:35 -0700 (PDT), Jamie Cooper newwikifan@yahoo.com wrote:
http://digg.com/design/Centiare_Prize_2007_cash_for_best_wiki_designs
Redux: other methods having conspicuously failed, Gregory Kohs is now trying bribery.
Paying for webdesign is hardly uncommon.
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:55:35 +0100, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
Redux: other methods having conspicuously failed, Gregory Kohs is now trying bribery.
Paying for webdesign is hardly uncommon.
Nor is trying to bribe new users to sign up to a website in the hope they will create some content for you and maybe get you up to critical mass.
Guy (JzG)
G'day Guy,
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:55:35 +0100, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
Redux: other methods having conspicuously failed, Gregory Kohs is now trying bribery.
Paying for webdesign is hardly uncommon.
Nor is trying to bribe new users to sign up to a website in the hope they will create some content for you and maybe get you up to critical mass.
Well, if that's what he's doing (and I don't concede that it is), let him. It's no skin of *our* noses, surely?
Wikipedia, and wikien-L, are not for gloating at what may or may not be evidence that someone certain members don't like is not doing as well as he'd hoped. If you want to engage in a little schadenfreude, I think I have a copy of "The Book of My Enemy Has Been Remaindered" for you to read and cackle over in the privacy of your own home, and not on this list.
Guy, I value and enjoy your opinion, whether offered here or on-wiki. Your repeated digs at Gregory Kohs, deserved or not, however, are far from enjoyable. They degrade both the experience of reading the list, and the reputation of Wikipedia admins. If you have to express your distaste for this chap, please do so more productively and less publicly. Perhaps you could take up gym membership and work off your frustration that way, or (it being soon after the Queen's Birthday Holiday), if that's too expensive, get some fireworks and blow up people's mailboxes. I look forward to not hearing your solution to the problem.
Cheers,
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 00:53:22 +1000, Mark Gallagher m.g.gallagher@student.canberra.edu.au wrote:
Well, if that's what he's doing (and I don't concede that it is), let him. It's no skin of *our* noses, surely?
None at all, no.
Wikipedia, and wikien-L, are not for gloating at what may or may not be evidence that someone certain members don't like is not doing as well as he'd hoped. If you want to engage in a little schadenfreude, I think I have a copy of "The Book of My Enemy Has Been Remaindered" for you to read and cackle over in the privacy of your own home, and not on this list.
Was I doing that? I didn't think so, but maybe I was.
Guy, I value and enjoy your opinion, whether offered here or on-wiki. Your repeated digs at Gregory Kohs, deserved or not, however, are far from enjoyable. They degrade both the experience of reading the list, and the reputation of Wikipedia admins. If you have to express your distaste for this chap, please do so more productively and less publicly. Perhaps you could take up gym membership and work off your frustration that way, or (it being soon after the Queen's Birthday Holiday), if that's too expensive, get some fireworks and blow up people's mailboxes. I look forward to not hearing your solution to the problem.
Not far off the mark: I have only ridden about a thousand miles this year on my bike, and I am pushing 190lb, so I need to lose at least 10lb and get back down to under 13% body fat, but the gym is not looking too attractive, I have too little spare time what with Wikipedia and singing. I think I'll just do the round trip to work (50 miles) on the bike a few times. Maybe get the recumbent out.
I do feel compelled to point out, though, that, Kohs is the one attacking me on his main page and on Wikipedia Review, not the other way round. I actually don't give a toss about him as long as he stays away (being banned and all).
Guy (JzG)