In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:21:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecaliocean@me.com writes:
Yeah, but see, the thing is, you don't "own" the blog. The person writing it does (well, technically, the blog hosting service does). They have the right to not have a comment show up. We could use the same argument on Wikipedia.>>
--------------- What? That Wikipedia puts a "comment on this article" and someone says "I love this person" and "we" or at least someone decides that fan mail is not something we want ?
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments.
Will
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments.
I thought we were talking about how to make the talk page more accessible...
Emily On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:19 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:21:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecaliocean@me.com writes:
Yeah, but see, the thing is, you don't "own" the blog. The person writing it does (well, technically, the blog hosting service does). They have the right to not have a comment show up. We could use the same argument on Wikipedia.>>
What? That Wikipedia puts a "comment on this article" and someone says "I love this person" and "we" or at least someone decides that fan mail is not something we want ?
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments.
Will
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No that was someone's idea, but not mine. I like having the "Make a Comment" button at the bottom of each article, as this would mimic what readers are used to seeing at other sites. I don't that this would create a seperate section on the Talk page however, as I think this would clutter the Talk page with a lot of casual comments. When you read the comments on say a YouTube video, you get a lot of one-liners and people talking back and forth and so on. I don't see this as a way to improve the article, only a way to allow casual readers to make comments. It seems like just that possibly more-friendly approach might bring people into the project as editors as well. I'm not sure it would, it's a trial balloon.
Will
-----Original Message----- From: Emily Monroe bluecaliocean@me.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 11:20 am Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments.
I thought we were talking about how to make the talk page more accessible...
Emily On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:19 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:21:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecaliocean@me.com writes:
Yeah, but see, the thing is, you don't "own" the blog. The person writing it does (well, technically, the blog hosting service does). They have the right to not have a comment show up. We could use the same argument on Wikipedia.>>
What? That Wikipedia puts a "comment on this article" and someone says "I love this person" and "we" or at least someone decides that fan mail is not something we want ?
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments.
Will
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I don't see this as a way to improve the article, only a way to allow casual readers to make comments.
THANK YOU for the clarification!
Emily
On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:04 PM, wjhonson@aol.com wrote:
No that was someone's idea, but not mine. I like having the "Make a Comment" button at the bottom of each article, as this would mimic what readers are used to seeing at other sites. I don't that this would create a seperate section on the Talk page however, as I think this would clutter the Talk page with a lot of casual comments. When you read the comments on say a YouTube video, you get a lot of one-liners and people talking back and forth and so on. I don't see this as a way to improve the article, only a way to allow casual readers to make comments. It seems like just that possibly more-friendly approach might bring people into the project as editors as well. I'm not sure it would, it's a trial balloon.
Will
-----Original Message----- From: Emily Monroe bluecaliocean@me.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 11:20 am Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments.
I thought we were talking about how to make the talk page more accessible...
Emily On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:19 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:21:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecaliocean@me.com writes:
Yeah, but see, the thing is, you don't "own" the blog. The person writing it does (well, technically, the blog hosting service does). They have the right to not have a comment show up. We could use the same argument on Wikipedia.>>
What? That Wikipedia puts a "comment on this article" and someone says "I love this person" and "we" or at least someone decides that fan mail is not something we want ?
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments.
Will
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2009/9/3 Emily Monroe bluecaliocean@me.com:
I don't see this as a way to improve the article, only a way to allow casual readers to make comments.
THANK YOU for the clarification!
It is, of course, *also* a good way to get input from people frightened by the idea of editing for whatever reason.
I think the Wikinews version is just another page of wikitext. Is there a friendlier version we could ask to be deployed? (allowing for on-wiki consensus &c.) I'm not sure if LiquidThreads is top-10-ready.
- d.
I like having the "Make a Comment" button at the bottom of each article, as this would mimic what readers are used to seeing at other sites.
Maybe the "Make a Comment" button can link to a page that has check boxes that have both positive (Fun to read, easy to understand, accurate) and negative (Boring, hard to understand, inaccurate) words beside them, then have a text box at the bottom saying "Any other comments?". We would get a lot of kids who would, of course, do the whole "dirty pedo" thing in the text box, check off all the words, etc. At least then, it doesn't end up in the article.
But then, who would read the comments?
Emily On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:04 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
No that was someone's idea, but not mine. I like having the "Make a Comment" button at the bottom of each article, as this would mimic what readers are used to seeing at other sites. I don't that this would create a seperate section on the Talk page however, as I think this would clutter the Talk page with a lot of casual comments. When you read the comments on say a YouTube video, you get a lot of one-liners and people talking back and forth and so on. I don't see this as a way to improve the article, only a way to allow casual readers to make comments. It seems like just that possibly more-friendly approach might bring people into the project as editors as well. I'm not sure it would, it's a trial balloon.
Will
-----Original Message----- From: Emily Monroe bluecaliocean@me.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 11:20 am Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments.
I thought we were talking about how to make the talk page more accessible...
Emily On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:19 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:21:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecaliocean@me.com writes:
Yeah, but see, the thing is, you don't "own" the blog. The person writing it does (well, technically, the blog hosting service does). They have the right to not have a comment show up. We could use the same argument on Wikipedia.>>
What? That Wikipedia puts a "comment on this article" and someone says "I love this person" and "we" or at least someone decides that fan mail is not something we want ?
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments.
Will
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