Procedural note to moderators: Perhaps it is time to consider a length limit on posting?
Risker
Risker wrote:
Procedural note to moderators: Perhaps it is time to consider a length limit on posting?
While I understand where you are coming from, it bears noting that some people would like a limit of length both on the short and the long side, and you would in the eyes of some, fail on the short side of the limit -- as I do often too, not being too particular either way. Not passing judgement long or short, but just noting that both are annoying, even I admit to have rarely done both...
...And I suspect I will do both again. Do note that the current person in charge of the staff serving the foundation, very specifically commended a very long post by Gregory Maxwell that in her view nicely summarised the situation on commons -- albeit that post was at the foundation-l.
I don't actually agree with Sue on that particular summary being all that insightful. (Sorry Greg!) But a lengthy summary did in fact please Sue in that particular instance. So making the moderators bar posts like the one by Greg, I think serves no one.
Yours,
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On 1 June 2010 15:45, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonavaro@gmail.com wrote:
I don't actually agree with Sue on that particular summary being all that insightful. (Sorry Greg!) But a lengthy summary did in fact please Sue in that particular instance. So making the moderators bar posts like the one by Greg, I think serves no one.
The 20KB limit on wikien-l used to be a 10KB limit. Deliberately working around it is antisocial at the least; I would ask that contributors not do this, and instead take the time to rewrite more concisely when they get a bounce due to length. The writing will also undoubtedly improve.
- d.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Procedural note to moderators: Perhaps it is time to consider a length limit on posting?
I'm not a moderator, but I've just been skipping those long posts. They are annoying, but I may one day read those posts if I have nothing better to do, and sometimes there is something interesting in there.
Carcharoth
On 1 June 2010 16:17, Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.com wrote:
I'm not a moderator, but I've just been skipping those long posts. They are annoying, but I may one day read those posts if I have nothing better to do, and sometimes there is something interesting in there.
Now you know how we feel with your posts, Carch :).
(I'm kidding, ofc. Your input is most valuable in part because it's so detailed.)
AGK
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:47 PM, AGK wikiagk@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 June 2010 16:17, Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.com wrote:
I'm not a moderator, but I've just been skipping those long posts. They are annoying, but I may one day read those posts if I have nothing better to do, and sometimes there is something interesting in there.
Now you know how we feel with your posts, Carch :).
(I'm kidding, ofc. Your input is most valuable in part because it's so detailed.)
I wish I could say I didn't have your comment in the back of my mind when I posted on-wiki a few minutes ago, but I did and the comments were slightly longer than usual... :-P
Carcharoth
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.com wrote:
I'm not a moderator, but I've just been skipping those long posts. They are annoying, but I may one day read those posts if I have nothing better to do, and sometimes there is something interesting in there.
"I apologize that this letter is so long. I did not have the time to make it short." - Blaise Pascal
I agree. Abd, please take the time to make your thoughts more readily parsable. Don't force your readers to work so hard in order to find your point. [[tl;dr]] is generally an odious dismissal, but it really does apply here.
and this thread should go back to discussing, er, let's see: "declining numbers of EN wiki admins
Well, I've never applied (after 5 years of daily editing), primarily because I'm already busy on-wiki, and the tasks I'm interested in don't require blocking or protecting anything. I'd occasionally find it useful to be able to edit protected pages, or view deleted content, but there are {{editprotected}} templates and request pages that can handle my sporadic needs.
Secondly, these comments from a few months ago have been stuck in my head:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:53 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/10 Mike Pruden mikepruden@yahoo.com:
Personally, I found unloading my watchlist liberating, and I would hope that more would do the same. There's always that steady stream of vandal-fighters to stomp out any clear vandalism that pops up. It's hard to explain, but I think it's a good exercise in assuming good faith that others will make constructive edits in efforts to improve pages.
I gave up using my watchlist in late 2004. Haven't missed it.
So /That's/ why we're so busy, and feel so alone sometimes!! :P The busy policy talkpages, really (really) need regular input from the old guard. Watch[list]ful vigilance, is the still the best way to understand, and influence, the undercurrents of consensus, afaik.
There's more, but I need more coffee now, and less stress in general. HTH.
Quiddity
On 2 June 2010 20:46, quiddity pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:
So /That's/ why we're so busy, and feel so alone sometimes!! :P The busy policy talkpages, really (really) need regular input from the old guard. Watch[list]ful vigilance, is the still the best way to understand, and influence, the undercurrents of consensus, afaik.
I've mostly had my fill of the same stupidities over and over. I am pretty much unknown to the current centres of drama - those who've leveled up to admin but are still in their first 18 months - and I quite like it. I have no particular powers on en:wp and no-one knows or cares who I am except old-timers and the ones who watch TV in the UK. (And I've done almost no press this year because WMUK handle pretty much all of it.) Content, it's fun!
There's more, but I need more coffee now, and less stress in general. HTH.
+1
- d.