On 10/11/05, Poor, Edmund W Edmund.W.Poor@abc.com wrote:
The "marker idea" will only work if it can be moved back to point to an earlier version. If it can be moved up again to point to a later version, we'll get reversion wars over the marker.
Throughout this discussion, there has been a question lurking that I finally must ask:
How is moving a marker functionally any different than simply reverting to some selected point in the article's history?
The only difference I can conceive is that the edit history remains a little more simple with a marker system.
-- Michael Turley User:Unfocused
On 10/11/05, Michael Turley michael.turley@gmail.com wrote:
How is moving a marker functionally any different than simply reverting to some selected point in the article's history?
If you have a latest edit (being the version you get when you click the Edit button) and a marked version (being the version you get when you visit the article) then you have twice as much opportunity to edit war.
And twice as much scope for vandalism.
On 10/11/05, Tony Sidaway f.crdfa@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/11/05, Michael Turley michael.turley@gmail.com wrote:
How is moving a marker functionally any different than simply reverting to some selected point in the article's history?
If you have a latest edit (being the version you get when you click the Edit button) and a marked version (being the version you get when you visit the article) then you have twice as much opportunity to edit war.
And twice as much scope for vandalism.
OK, now the question *I should have* asked.
How is a moving a marker to designate a preferred version functionally *better* than simply reverting to a chosen edit in the article's history?
-- Michael Turley User:Unfocused
On 10/11/05, Michael Turley michael.turley@gmail.com wrote:
OK, now the question *I should have* asked.
How is a moving a marker to designate a preferred version functionally *better* than simply reverting to a chosen edit in the article's history?
Sometimes it's useful to have additional "in progress" information in an article. That new information might not be completely fleshed out and presented in the perfect way, or maybe it is well presented but just hasn't been fact-checked by anyone other than the original author. It still is useful, though. Think of it like software development, with a stable and a current branch. There's bleeding-edge-not-quite-fact-checked Wikipedia and there's stable-fact-checked Wikipedia. All without forking or protection of pages. The trick I think is making "marker movement" a slower process than article development. That's where I think a process like the FAC process comes into play.
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Michael Turley User:Unfocused
Anthony
I've summarized the issues of a simple marker-based system on this Meta page. Please feel free to edit/add/comment.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Article_marker_feature
-Andrew (User:Fuzheado)
On 10/12/05, Anthony DiPierro wikispam@inbox.org wrote:
On 10/11/05, Michael Turley michael.turley@gmail.com wrote:
OK, now the question *I should have* asked.
How is a moving a marker to designate a preferred version functionally *better* than simply reverting to a chosen edit in the article's history?
Sometimes it's useful to have additional "in progress" information in an article. That new information might not be completely fleshed out and presented in the perfect way, or maybe it is well presented but just hasn't been fact-checked by anyone other than the original author. It still is useful, though. Think of it like software development, with a stable and a current branch. There's bleeding-edge-not-quite-fact-checked Wikipedia and there's stable-fact-checked Wikipedia. All without forking or protection of pages. The trick I think is making "marker movement" a slower process than article development. That's where I think a process like the FAC process comes into play.
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Michael Turley User:Unfocused
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