Isn't this guy now at the arbitration committee stage? It sounds like this matter needs a moveon.
(BTW , my first entry!) --
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DATE: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:39:09 From: "KNOTT, T" tknott@qcl.org.uk To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Cc:
Can I ask for people to help me out a bit here. Irismeister is following me around trying to provoke me. My tactic of doing my best to ignore him seems to be winding him up as he made a couple of absurd edits yesterday - he removed "if swallowed ....... seek medical help" from ammonium chloride on the ground that seeking medical help from unqualified persons wastes time and is therefore dangerous. This _may_ be because english is not his first language and he doesn't realize the phrase means - go to a doctor or ring the emergency services, but I think it's just that he's baiting me.
Another example is on the reflexology page where he deleted a quote that I put in calling it obscene. This is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard so I reverted.
My problem is, I am now at the stage where I simply revert all the deletions he makes of my work without even considering his arguments. It may well be that I make a bad edit, irismeister reverts it and I revert it back again simply because it was him. I am concerned that other editors may be reluctant to argue with me for fear of agree with him, or even for fear of getting involved in the war. So I'm asking for you lot's help. If you see me revert irismeister and you think that even though he is a jerk, his edit had some merit please say so on the talk page. I can't bring myself to argue my case with him anymore, but I don't want the quality of wikipedia to suffer as a result.
Cheers.
Theresa
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This matter is listed on the page Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration and has been referred by Jimbo. At this point two members of the arbitration committee have voted to accept the case, four are required. Evidence is being collected at Wikipedia:Matter of Irismeister evidence. Anyone, including you, can add links to evidence at that page. Especially needed (in my opinion-ridiculous bending over backwards to be fair opinion) is any evidence that Theresa Knott actually did libel Irismeister (under any reasonable legal theory of libel). I would not want to convict Irismeister of making baseless legal threats if there is some basis.
Fred, member of the arbitration committee
From: "Arno M" redgum46@lycos.com Organization: Lycos Mail (http://www.mail.lycos.com:80) Reply-To: redgum46@lycos.com, English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:37:34 +0600 To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] Irismeister
Isn't this guy now at the arbitration committee stage? It sounds like this matter needs a moveon.
(BTW , my first entry!)
Fred Bauder wrote:
Evidence is being collected at Wikipedia:Matter of Irismeister evidence. Anyone, including you, can add links to evidence at that page. Especially needed (in my opinion-ridiculous bending over backwards to be fair opinion) is any evidence that Theresa Knott actually did libel Irismeister (under any reasonable legal theory of libel). I would not want to convict Irismeister of making baseless legal threats if there is some basis.
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Normally where there is an allegation of libel the onus would be upon the person making that allegation to show where this was done. What one person considers as libellous to his person, may not even be noticed by others.
Ec
This is not a Court. One possible wrong that was committed was making unsupported charges of libel. If Irismeister is guilty of making unsupported claims of libel we need to look into what was said about him. So far, although there are some apologies and retractions there is evidence he was called a "Quack" and a "nutcase". In the context of a mudslinging exchange however.
Fred
From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:11:58 -0800 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Irismeister
Fred Bauder wrote:
Evidence is being collected at Wikipedia:Matter of Irismeister evidence. Anyone, including you, can add links to evidence at that page. Especially needed (in my opinion-ridiculous bending over backwards to be fair opinion) is any evidence that Theresa Knott actually did libel Irismeister (under any reasonable legal theory of libel). I would not want to convict Irismeister of making baseless legal threats if there is some basis.
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Normally where there is an allegation of libel the onus would be upon the person making that allegation to show where this was done. What one person considers as libellous to his person, may not even be noticed by others.
Ec
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