Bryan Derksen wrote:
Todd Allen wrote:
Do WP:AFC for a few days, keeping in mind that
the submissions there are
made right next to a set of -very specific instructions-. Then see if
you think anon page creation would be a great thing. If you think
CAT:CSD backlogs -now-...
But can you actually _show_ that the quality of new articles went up
when anon article creation was disabled? Sampling of new articles
beforehand wasn't done and AfC didn't exist before anon article creation
was disabled so there's no data to compare the current situation to. I'm
not going to make an argument based just on my subjective opinion.
That's my whole _point._ As an experiment it was a complete failure
since it produced no usable data. Perhaps by reversing it and actually
collecting data this time we'll be able to salvage something from it.
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That would have been great, but since we still have a mechanism for
anonymous editors to submit articles, I think it's the case that we
-can- gather useful data from that, in terms of "Roughly how many pages
that an anon wants to create would be pages we would actually wish to
have, and how many of them would we need to take time to get rid of?"
We could certainly look at how many AfC submissions are accepted, and
how many declined. And if anything, that may be a -higher- percentage of
good pages than simply turning anon-creation back on, since AfC contains
specific instructions, whereas "You can create this page..." often seems
to give the mistaken impression that there are no minimum requirements.
I'm all for anon editing. A lot of edits made by anons are good ones,
even if some are vandalism (and not as high a fraction of anon edits are
vandalism as people seem to think). On the other hand, we get a very
high number of garbage pages even from new registered contributors (and
that certainly can be proven with hard evidence, I think someone at one
point looked at what percentage new pages wound up deleted). That data
seems to indicate that the threshold to create a page is, if anything,
too -low-, and that if we're going to experiment we should do it with
more restrictions, not fewer.