RickK wrote:
[[User:Caius2ga]] is repeatedly involved in edit wars over the useage of the names of Polish cities, insisting on calling every city that ever was or ever might have been in Poland, by its current name, regardless of what it might have ever been called. He has now begun to refer to those who disagree with him as Nazis.
Most disgusting is the behaviour of almost all parties involved in these edit wars. While I do not have a preference concerning the city names (I don't care what they are called, there are indeed more important things), the name calling and reversion wars are unacceptable.
The brave user Kosebamse mediated a compromise for the Silesia article. The main combattants Nico and Szopen agreed to accept the final wording, apologised to each other for previous behaviour and removed themselves from the problem user page. But there are users who refuse to discuss while a page is protected. See the discussion on [[User talk:Wik]], where Kosebamse tried to convince him of discussing his points of view. As soon as a page is unprotected, this sort of users is starting to revert. The Silesia page was unprotected for twelve hours (which is almost a record), and after it was protected again, user Caius2ga started to call his opponents Nazis.
PLEASE NOTE that this is not a complaint about the content, which is inserted into the articles by certain users. It is a complaint about the behaviour of the users involved. Their behaviour is a shame and as far from Wikiquette as it could be.
I am just an observer and not involved anymore, because I learnt that mediation is useless with this sort of users. I guess, Kosebamse won't give it one more try as well. This is so frustrating. I know of several users who keep out of all Poland/Germany articles (me included), and I know one user, who left Wikipedia because of this. My advice: Kick them out. Wik and Caius2ga are not able to work in a cooperative project and are poisoning the atmosphere.
Best regards,
Mirko.
Mirko Thiessen mt@mirko-thiessen.de schrieb am Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:42:13 +0100:
RickK wrote:
[[User:Caius2ga]] is repeatedly involved in edit wars over the useage of the names of Polish cities, insisting on calling every city that ever was or ever might have been in Poland, by its current name, regardless of what it might have ever been called. He has now begun to refer to those who disagree with him as Nazis.
I am adding to my last comment to this list: There are no-go areas on Wikipedia, where normal editors can't edit. There are articles in a constant state of edit war, which cannot be NPOVed because of the superiority of partisans and reversion warriors. There are entire fields of knowledge, where serious editors run away from other editors insulting and accusing everyone having another opinion.
Viajero made a good point when he said, that we need new procedures to deal with this sort of users. These users are discouraging serious contributors and chasing them away (as already happened).
If your reaction to this is "Just tell him, he should not do it again", then - okay, then I will accept, that there are sections in Wikipedia, which will never become encyclopedic.
Deeply frustrated,
Mirko.