Message: 10 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:13:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick giantsrick13@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: WikiEN-l Penis To: Discussion list for English-language Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Message-ID: 20030831211340.89274.qmail@web80604.mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I'm going to try very hard not to take that as an attack, but it's very hard to do.

Hu ? Sorry you didnot understand me. I must confess I can't understand either what you wrote below :-(((

In other words, unless you're some wizard, it's impossible to undelete.

What do you mean it is impossible to undelete ?

I am a wizard myself quite often (though from time to time, I just can't succeed to have the magic work, hence the "good luck").

Anything a sysop can do, a sysop can undo.

If you block an ip, another sysop can unblock it If you protect a page, another sysop can unprotect it If you delete a page, another sysop can undelete it Er...an exception, if you delete an image, then that is lost forever. This is bad.

A couple of people are HIGH wizards, such as Brion.

But we are just regular wizard

So, if you make a mistake and delete a page, you have the ability to restore it. You may go to the special page, list the deleted pages and find it (I still do that sometimes on the fr wiki).

Or you may use the magic undelete link that is listed in the page I provided you. You use the link, you replace the end of it by "penis", you enter

And sometimes, it works :-)

Hack a bookmark? Use Mozilla?

I am no computer wizard I know no such things

Therefore the majority of sysops are unable to undelete, and therefore should not be allowed to delete. Is that what you're saying?

No. When were you made sysop ? All sysops are able to undelete Perhaps a sysop should be fully aware of his powers before using them. Perhaps some stuff needs to be better explained to new sysops.

RickK

Sorry you misunderstood. Did you try to undelete yourself ? Why not creating a junk article and then deleting it, and restoring it ?

Anthere anthere6@yahoo.com wrote: Rick giantsrick13 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 31 14:02:43 UTC 2003

I did the delete. I thought the original page's history stayed with the original name. Sorry. I don't know how to do an undelete or I'd do it. But then, how do you rename it so that it keeps the history? And it was Michael who did the move to begin with. He's decided to visit us again today.

RickK

Perhaps it would be better than anyone practicing deletion, knew how to practice undeletion as well :-) check here and good luck

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3AVotes_for_undeletion

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