Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:40:35 +0100 From: Mike Dupont jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Missing Wikipedians: An Essay
Well this is a similar problem I am having with adding details to, or new articles about Kosovo, even my attempts are getting deleted.
Mike, certainly this would be a systemic bias issue, but some of your editing needs refining to avoid running into problems.
Having problems even getting the Turkish, Bosnian or Albanian alternative names added without being deleted, even if sources
Why should all these alternate names by included in the English Wikipedia? I've seen you raising these name disputes repeatedly on this list and at various noticeboards; you need to stop forum-shopping and instead open an RfC so this can be centrally discussed. You're looking a bit like a single-purpose account on this issue and such issues have been taken to ArbCom before, see [[WP:ARBMAC]]. Tread carefully.
let alone a coverage of members of parliament (list of them deleted as not notable).
That list was 1) formatted in a very unusual way, with each person having a heading and with almost no wikilinks 2) almost entirely unsourced. It wasn't deleted as non-notable, it was deleted as being a directory. If you want lists of living people to stay you need to format them according to the manual of style for lists and source them properly. Particularly for such a controversial area as Kosovan politics we cannot be cavalier about making claims to do with living people. I have restored the history to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mdupont/List_of_politicians_i... I have begun cleanup. If you want such a list back in mainspace, it needs formatting and sourcing properly.
Also local pop-stars who are not notable by English newspapers are deleted, even if they are well know and unavoidable.
If you can provide reliable sources in non-English languages, such articles can certainly be kept. I've done so before. The key is to actually provide the sources and not merely assert notability. p.s. The format of my emails tends to come out weird on this list - sorry.
On 21 February 2011 20:26, Fences&Windows fences_and_windows@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
If you can provide reliable sources in non-English languages, such articles can certainly be kept. I've done so before. The key is to actually provide the sources and not merely assert notability.
Yep. There's nothing wrong with non-English-language sources as long as they're of comparable quality to the English-language sources appropriate to whatever sort of article it is.
- d.