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Forum: the Politics: The Bully Pulpit Forum Subject: My Wikipedia Rant From: John (CHICAGOJOHN) To: Fish (FFFFFFFFFISH) DateTime: 8/25/2003 12:56:22 PM
ROFL!!! I just went there. That was awesome! I'm tempted to go there and adjust some of my favorite definitions.
John
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Forum: the Politics: The Bully Pulpit Forum Subject: My Wikipedia Rant From: John (CHICAGOJOHN) To: Fish (FFFFFFFFFISH) DateTime: 8/25/2003 12:56:22 PM
ROFL!!! I just went there. That was awesome! I'm tempted to go there and adjust some of my favorite definitions.
John
What an complete moron. Let's drown him in virus spam.
Next time include a link Tarq -- http://forums.delphiforums.com/bully/messages/?msg=25069.1
After reading a little, I dont think hes a total moron, just a typical product of his isolated, depressed, and buttoned-down HUA, TYOB culture of the 50s/70s/90s conservative.
-S- ps: HUA means "head up ass" TYOB mean "toke your own butthole"
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Forum: the Politics: The Bully Pulpit Forum Subject: My Wikipedia Rant From: John (CHICAGOJOHN) To: Fish (FFFFFFFFFISH) DateTime: 8/25/2003 12:56:22 PM
ROFL!!! I just went there. That was awesome! I'm tempted to go there and adjust some of my
favorite definitions.
John
What an complete moron. Let's drown him in virus spam.
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I think banning him would probably prove the point that Wikipedia isn't completely unregulated. But then again, it would probably also prove that we're fascists to such a person. Not banning him would prove him that Wikipedia is unreliable. Talking about him proves that we're a bunch of losers who have nothing better to do. So I think ignoring the guy would probably be the best thing to do, along with keeping an eye on his IP and reverting his changes, should some more occur in the future.
Just my 2c.
P.S. Brion, got your mail just as I was writing this one--you didn't miss anything, don't worry. :) But maybe try with a different browser?
Gutza
Steve Vertigum wrote:
Next time include a link Tarq -- http://forums.delphiforums.com/bully/messages/?msg=25069.1
After reading a little, I dont think hes a total moron, just a typical product of his isolated, depressed, and buttoned-down HUA, TYOB culture of the 50s/70s/90s conservative.
-S- ps: HUA means "head up ass" TYOB mean "toke your own butthole"
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Forum: the Politics: The Bully Pulpit Forum Subject: My Wikipedia Rant From: John (CHICAGOJOHN) To: Fish (FFFFFFFFFISH) DateTime: 8/25/2003 12:56:22 PM
ROFL!!! I just went there. That was awesome! I'm tempted to go there and adjust some of my
favorite definitions.
John
What an complete moron. Let's drown him in virus spam.
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Gutza as usual is correct, and I apologise for even commenting at all. All in good fun --if not good taste. I read about half of that discussion list, and it seems like the typical conversation about wiki -- is it a valid source? How can it be trusted. etc. A very enlightening thread actually, looking at uninitiated newbies juggling the same paradoxical concept that we all still deal with -- namely 'despite the fact that it shouldnt work at all it does.' [paraphrasing Jimbo]
-S-
--- Gutza gutza@moongate.ro wrote:
I think banning him would probably prove the point that Wikipedia isn't completely unregulated. But then again, it would probably also prove that we're fascists to such a person. Not banning him would prove him that Wikipedia is unreliable. Talking about him proves that we're a bunch of losers who have nothing better to do. So I think ignoring the guy would probably be the best thing to do, along with keeping an eye on his IP and reverting his changes, should some more occur in the future.
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Gutza wrote:
I think banning him would probably prove the point that Wikipedia isn't completely unregulated. But then again, it would probably also prove that we're fascists to such a person. Not banning him would prove him that Wikipedia is unreliable. Talking about him proves that we're a bunch of losers who have nothing better to do. So I think ignoring the guy would probably be the best thing to do, along with keeping an eye on his IP and reverting his changes, should some more occur in the future.
I want to talk to this guy. His opinions of wikipedia aside -- does he really derive amusement from causing damage to something other people have worked hard on? I thought humans grew out of the "kicking sandcastles" phase in late adolescence. Anyway, this is something I'll maybe raise on MeatBall. :)
No it was just a nice discussion group started from the naysayers point of view -- this John guy threw it to the class with a little Red Herring bait on it (conservative jargon) on it -- and they all ate it up.
One guy actuall made a "vandal" change to Mars (planet) article -- just to prove that anyone could make wiki invalid as a source. (Mars is the third planet from the Sun named after the Klingon god of war" ) Of course they failed to mention that it was modified to better reflect the truth ;)
On toke oo from the great grand enlightenment doobie on its oo trip around the world, -S-
--- tarquin tarquin@planetunreal.com wrote:
Gutza wrote:
I think banning him would probably prove the point
that Wikipedia
isn't completely unregulated. But then again, it
would probably also
prove that we're fascists to such a person. Not
banning him would
prove him that Wikipedia is unreliable. Talking
about him proves that
we're a bunch of losers who have nothing better to
do. So I think
ignoring the guy would probably be the best thing
to do, along with
keeping an eye on his IP and reverting his
changes, should some more
occur in the future.
I want to talk to this guy. His opinions of wikipedia aside -- does he really derive amusement from causing damage to something other people have worked hard on? I thought humans grew out of the "kicking sandcastles" phase in late adolescence. Anyway, this is something I'll maybe raise on MeatBall. :)
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Steve Vertigum wrote:
Next time include a link Tarq -- http://forums.delphiforums.com/bully/messages/?msg=25069.1
The ironic beauty of this is that John calls it a 'socialist nirvana' and laments the 'dead ends' he got when he tried to research the founder of the site (I can only assume he meant me).
But I don't suppose it would be too difficult to research me and find that I'm sufficiently pro-capitalist to make even most conservatives' hair stand on end. :-)
Good for a chuckle.
But I wouldn't worry too much about a horde of conservative vandals coming in and putting jokes all over the site. If nothing else, conservatives can at least usually respect private property. "You kids get off'n my proppity!"
After reading a little, I dont think hes a total moron, just a typical product of his isolated, depressed, and buttoned-down HUA, TYOB culture of the 50s/70s/90s conservative.
I'm glad you left out the 80s conservatives! We rocked! ;-)
--Jimbo
At 07:38 AM 9/2/03 -0700, Jimbo wrote:
Steve Vertigum wrote:
Next time include a link Tarq -- http://forums.delphiforums.com/bully/messages/?msg=25069.1
The ironic beauty of this is that John calls it a 'socialist nirvana' and laments the 'dead ends' he got when he tried to research the founder of the site (I can only assume he meant me).
From my viewpoint, it is a fine piece of an anarcho-socialist nirvana: everyone contributes what they want and are able to, and everyone shares the resulting benefits.
But I don't suppose it would be too difficult to research me and find that I'm sufficiently pro-capitalist to make even most conservatives' hair stand on end. :-)
Good for a chuckle.
But I wouldn't worry too much about a horde of conservative vandals coming in and putting jokes all over the site. If nothing else, conservatives can at least usually respect private property. "You kids get off'n my proppity!"
Vicki Rosenzweig wrote:
At 07:38 AM 9/2/03 -0700, Jimbo wrote:
Steve Vertigum wrote:
Next time include a link Tarq -- http://forums.delphiforums.com/bully/messages/?msg=25069.1
The ironic beauty of this is that John calls it a 'socialist nirvana' and laments the 'dead ends' he got when he tried to research the founder of the site (I can only assume he meant me).
From my viewpoint, it is a fine piece of an anarcho-socialist nirvana: everyone contributes what they want and are able to, and everyone shares the resulting benefits.
To be really an inclusive project maybe we should consider it as an anarcho-lebertarian-socialist nirvana. :-)
Ec
Vicki Rosenzweig wrote:
Jimbo Wales wrote:
The ironic beauty of this is that John calls it a 'socialist nirvana' and laments the 'dead ends' he got when he tried to research the founder of the site (I can only assume he meant me).
From my viewpoint, it is a fine piece of an anarcho-socialist nirvana: everyone contributes what they want and are able to, and everyone shares the resulting benefits.
Yes, I don't see anything particularly right-wing about Wikimedia. To be sure, it fits in with right-Libertarian philosophy just fine; since Jimbo, as owner of the infrastructure, chooses to let us use it, and Wikimedia, although a collective institution, is entirely voluntary. That's the great thing about /libertarianism/ of any stripe, as opposed to the authoritarianism of (say) the GWBush administration; alternative models can fit into the framework if people want them.
-- Toby