and now that this fine-sounding investigation has proved that innocent users get penalty decisions slapped on them dictatorially on the spot without any dispute resolution, that means you are using stolen writing on article pages. Any writing you keep there, that comes originally from a wronged user. By not having any properly applied rules and denying that a user right to them exists, you cease to have any claim that former contributions from those users are agreed not to be copyright, and it is an act of ideas theft not to remove every word. Remember all those copyright worries you've been writing about in the Nazi topic? This is further to them.
By a user whose talk page has just been locked to stop me continuing to post onto it links to evidence of unjust processes. It is a completely open act, that anyone can see online, of suppression of evidence, and done by one of the same admins whose actions were originally involved in my case: Redwolf24. He openly writes that if talk pages are used for protest instead of for begging "to make us want" to unblock you, they should be locked. I have saved a copy of the page in case it gets totally deleted. Now, A Nony Mouse and Skyring and anyone else interested in these things, hurry up to look at Usertalk:Tern and record this.
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:41:24 -0500 From: "A. Nony Mouse" mousyme@gmail.com Subject: [WikiEN-l] Re: Exercises in social engineering
On 8/10/05, A. Nony Mouse mousyme@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I'll admit now. I'll own up. I violated
[[WP:POINT]] in an amazing
way.
Amazing for one reason, that is.
You see, my little social experiment, which was
originally created
just to see how Wikipedia's elites actually behaved,
bore more fruit
than I can count.
... So much so that the
actual procedures for dispute resolution were
ignored. Nobody
attempted to contact them. They went straight from a
backwards, tilted
RFC into a quick RFAR.
And then of course there were no less than SIX
innocent users who got
drawn in. Yep, that's right. I didn't even DO
anything with the
situation, save for calling for leniency when it was
obvious another
user was caught up in it.
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*sigh* No Wikipedia contributions are copyrighted. By pressing that little "Save page" button, you submit every single one of your contributions liscensed under the GFDL. That means anyone (yes, anyone) can use what you wrote, as long as they follow the licensing rules. Wikipedia using your work isn't "theft"; it's free. Let me quote from the bottom of the page in the "edit page" view, which you saw every time you edited a page.:
DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!
- All contributions to any page on Wikipedia are released under the
GNU Free Documentation License (see Project:Copyrightshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrightsfor details).
- *If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and
redistributed at will, do not submit it.*
- By submitting your work you promise you wrote it yourself, or
copied it from public domainhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domainresources—this does *not* include most web pages.
Furthermore, now that you have been banned, you have no rights on
Wikipedia. That is the simple fact. By the ruling of the administration, you are not welcome to edit on Wikipedia. See [[WP:BAN]]. We don't need any other evidence posted on your talk page; your legal threats and personal attacks stored forever in the page history stand for themselves. And yes, we are in the habit of "suppressing" trolls on Wikipedia. That's how we keep writing a free encyclopedia for every single person in the world.
~~~~ [[User:Bratsche|Ben]]
On 8/31/05, MAURICE FRANK megaknee@btopenworld.com wrote:
and now that this fine-sounding investigation has proved that innocent users get penalty decisions slapped on them dictatorially on the spot without any dispute resolution, that means you are using stolen writing on article pages. Any writing you keep there, that comes originally from a wronged user. By not having any properly applied rules and denying that a user right to them exists, you cease to have any claim that former contributions from those users are agreed not to be copyright, and it is an act of ideas theft not to remove every word. Remember all those copyright worries you've been writing about in the Nazi topic? This is further to them.
By a user whose talk page has just been locked to stop me continuing to post onto it links to evidence of unjust processes. It is a completely open act, that anyone can see online, of suppression of evidence, and done by one of the same admins whose actions were originally involved in my case: Redwolf24. He openly writes that if talk pages are used for protest instead of for begging "to make us want" to unblock you, they should be locked. I have saved a copy of the page in case it gets totally deleted. Now, A Nony Mouse and Skyring and anyone else interested in these things, hurry up to look at Usertalk:Tern and record this.
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:41:24 -0500 From: "A. Nony Mouse" mousyme@gmail.com Subject: [WikiEN-l] Re: Exercises in social engineering
On 8/10/05, A. Nony Mouse mousyme@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I'll admit now. I'll own up. I violated
[[WP:POINT]] in an amazing
way.
Amazing for one reason, that is.
You see, my little social experiment, which was
originally created
just to see how Wikipedia's elites actually behaved,
bore more fruit
than I can count.
... So much so that the
actual procedures for dispute resolution were
ignored. Nobody
attempted to contact them. They went straight from a
backwards, tilted
RFC into a quick RFAR.
And then of course there were no less than SIX
innocent users who got
drawn in. Yep, that's right. I didn't even DO
anything with the
situation, save for calling for leniency when it was
obvious another
user was caught up in it.
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Ben E. wrote:
No Wikipedia contributions are copyrighted. By pressing that little "Save page" button, you submit every single one of your contributions liscensed under the GFDL. That means anyone (yes, anyone) can use what you wrote, as long as they follow the licensing rules. Wikipedia using your work isn't "theft"; it's free.
This is not accurate. All Wikipedia contributions ARE copyrighted. GFDL is a licence or permission to use the material. It is not an abandonment of copyright. By licensing you retain the right to sue some user who does not follow the licensing rules. This right no longer exists when you put your work into the public domain.
Ec