On 3 May 2008 23:18:53 +0100, "Magnus Manske" magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Compare
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Victoria
with a screenshot from the movie "National Treasure 2":
I don't think there's any copyvio there... the text is too small to be readable on the movie screen, and the Victoria image is public domain. But the movie industry is as a whole pretty anal about crediting even the most incidental use of copyrighted or trademarked things... is there any mention of Wikipedia somewhere in the closing credits?
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
is there any mention of Wikipedia somewhere in the closing credits?
Technically, it should mention the authors listed on the history page, rather than Wikipedia. Wikipedia is just a user like any other.
Wow, movie credits are lengthy as it is, I could only imagine how long it would take to credit all the contributors to a major article like that one!
Wow, movie credits are lengthy as it is, I could only imagine how long it would take to credit all the contributors to a major article like that one!
Very very very small writing? You could probably skip anyone that just made minor or administrative edits (adding tags, spelling corrections, vandalism and vandalism reverts, etc). Would still leave a lot!
On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 14:49 +0100, Thomas Dalton wrote:
Wow, movie credits are lengthy as it is, I could only imagine how long it would take to credit all the contributors to a major article like that one!
Very very very small writing? You could probably skip anyone that just made minor or administrative edits (adding tags, spelling corrections, vandalism and vandalism reverts, etc). Would still leave a lot!
One can just list five principal authors.
KTC
Elias Friedman wrote:
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
is there any mention of Wikipedia somewhere in the closing credits?
Technically, it should mention the authors listed on the history page, rather than Wikipedia. Wikipedia is just a user like any other
Wow, movie credits are lengthy as it is, I could only imagine how long it would take to credit all the contributors to a major article like that one!
Sure, but even just mentioning Wikipedia would be a good first step forward for them. We don't want to frighten them with all the viral implications .... yet.
Ec
2008/5/4 Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net:
Technically, it should mention the authors listed on the history page, rather than Wikipedia. Wikipedia is just a user like any other
Wow, movie credits are lengthy as it is, I could only imagine how long it would take to credit all the contributors to a major article like that one!
Sure, but even just mentioning Wikipedia would be a good first step forward for them. We don't want to frighten them with all the viral implications .... yet.
Surely there *are* no viral implications, or indeed crediting requirements? We're not talking about the text being read out or scrolling up the screen; it's an incidental appearance, pretty much unreadable, and used as a visual element of an artistic work.
I can't quite see where the GFDL would come in...
2008/5/4 Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name:
I don't think there's any copyvio there... the text is too small to be readable on the movie screen, and the Victoria image is public domain. But the movie industry is as a whole pretty anal about crediting even the most incidental use of copyrighted or trademarked things... is there any mention of Wikipedia somewhere in the closing credits?
There probably should be. For news report usage, the trademarks are expressly allowed to be used (saves us lots of phone calls). For other movie/TV uses, production companies will generally call. Remember that there are people whose entire job is clearing trademarks and copyrights for reuse.
(I'd expect they'd use the puzzle globe to establish it's Wikipedia the character is looking at, and put some [[lorem ipsum]] text on the screen or printout.)
- d.