Dear Mr. Wales,
My apologies for bugging you on this. I am a new Wiki contributor (fizbin) and am a bit confused by requirements for uploading photo images. Below is an email conversation between myself and the owners (New York Road Runners) of an online photograph I'd like to insert in the Wiki entry for Jordan Hasay. Yet even though they clearly give permission to use the photo in the Wiki entry, the Wiki rules you posted have me confused as to whether you folks will allow its use. It almost seems by what I've read that the only photos allowed will be ones that contributors take with their own cameras!
Please advise. Thank you.
Jon Martin
Oakland, CA
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From: Jillian Haber [mailto:jhaber@nyrr.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:45 AM To: Shannon Martin; Martin, Jon Subject: Re: Fast Women Photos On Wikipedia
Hi Jon,
You have permission to post that photo of Jordan Hasay from the 2005 Foot Locker Nationals. Please include the follow photo credit with the photo
Photo Credit: Courtesy of New York Road Runners
Thanks, Jillian
On 2/20/07 10:52 AM, "Shannon Martin" smartin@nyrr.org wrote:
Hello Jon, I am copying this message to our photo editor, Jillian. 2005 is the last year that NYRR shot photos of the Foot Locker Nationals, so that is probably the most up-to-date photo of Jordan that we have. Jillian should be in touch with you soon as to the possibility of using this photo.
Thank you! Shannon
Shannon Martin Editor Fast-women.com Mensracing.com smartin@nyrr.org New York Road Runners 9 East 89th Street New York, NY 10128 212 860 4455 Extension 324
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From: Martin, Jon [mailto:jmartin@ebmud.com] mailto:jmartin@ebmud.com%5d Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:04 PM To: Shannon Martin Subject: Fast Women Photos On Wikipedia
Dear Ms. Martin,
While looking up some info I came across the Wikipedia entry for Jordan Hasay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Hasay). The entry was poorly written, and so I spent a little time today cleaning up the beginning of it. I was thinking of adding a photo, but got buried in Wiki's fair use policy which appears to prohibit linking to pretty much any online photos without express consent of the owners, which sounds fair to me. I also note that your web site also has similar language.
So this is a request to add one of your site's photos of Jordan Hasay to her Wiki entry. This one from the 2005 Footlocker would be good (http://www.fast-women.com/photos/2005/footlockerxc05/footlockerxc120.jp g), but your site has many pictures and you may have others you feel are better for this purpose. If so, please let me know.
Thank you for your consideration of this matter. Jon Martin Oakland, CA
Jillian Haber Photo Editor New York Road Runners (212) 423-2237 jhaber@nyrr.org
People who want to reuse material from Wikipedia need to have permission too. If you just have permission to use the image in Wikipedia that's not enough. You need to ask if they want to release it under a free license.
Mgm
On 2/20/07, Martin, Jon jmartin@ebmud.com wrote:
Dear Mr. Wales,
My apologies for bugging you on this. I am a new Wiki contributor (fizbin) and am a bit confused by requirements for uploading photo images. Below is an email conversation between myself and the owners (New York Road Runners) of an online photograph I'd like to insert in the Wiki entry for Jordan Hasay. Yet even though they clearly give permission to use the photo in the Wiki entry, the Wiki rules you posted have me confused as to whether you folks will allow its use. It almost seems by what I've read that the only photos allowed will be ones that contributors take with their own cameras!
Please advise. Thank you.
Jon Martin
Oakland, CA
From: Jillian Haber [mailto:jhaber@nyrr.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:45 AM To: Shannon Martin; Martin, Jon Subject: Re: Fast Women Photos On Wikipedia
Hi Jon,
You have permission to post that photo of Jordan Hasay from the 2005 Foot Locker Nationals. Please include the follow photo credit with the photo
Photo Credit: Courtesy of New York Road Runners
Thanks, Jillian
On 2/20/07 10:52 AM, "Shannon Martin" smartin@nyrr.org wrote:
Hello Jon, I am copying this message to our photo editor, Jillian. 2005 is the last year that NYRR shot photos of the Foot Locker Nationals, so that is probably the most up-to-date photo of Jordan that we have. Jillian should be in touch with you soon as to the possibility of using this photo.
Thank you! Shannon
Shannon Martin Editor Fast-women.com Mensracing.com smartin@nyrr.org New York Road Runners 9 East 89th Street New York, NY 10128 212 860 4455 Extension 324
From: Martin, Jon [mailto:jmartin@ebmud.com] mailto:jmartin@ebmud.com%5d Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:04 PM To: Shannon Martin Subject: Fast Women Photos On Wikipedia
Dear Ms. Martin,
While looking up some info I came across the Wikipedia entry for Jordan Hasay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Hasay). The entry was poorly written, and so I spent a little time today cleaning up the beginning of it. I was thinking of adding a photo, but got buried in Wiki's fair use policy which appears to prohibit linking to pretty much any online photos without express consent of the owners, which sounds fair to me. I also note that your web site also has similar language.
So this is a request to add one of your site's photos of Jordan Hasay to her Wiki entry. This one from the 2005 Footlocker would be good (http://www.fast-women.com/photos/2005/footlockerxc05/footlockerxc120.jp g), but your site has many pictures and you may have others you feel are better for this purpose. If so, please let me know.
Thank you for your consideration of this matter. Jon Martin Oakland, CA
Jillian Haber Photo Editor New York Road Runners (212) 423-2237 jhaber@nyrr.org
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