Fred Bauder [mailto: fredbaud@ctelco.net]
It is not at all clear that the fire was anything but accident.
In short, if Hindus were roasted alive, everything is in doubt. If Hindus can be blamed, word it as an ASSERTION. Right!
You just proved my point about intolerance and racism against Indians and Hindus. If this is what Wikipedia is going to turn into, it is really sad.
I am open to an honest investigation into what happened by REALLY neutral people who will look at it in an objective fashion. Even the original entry which read "2002 Gujarat pogrom" proves my point because pogrom is a loaded term. You know that very well.
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libertarian wrote:
Fred Bauder [mailto: fredbaud@ctelco.net]
It is not at all clear that the fire was anything but accident.
In short, if Hindus were roasted alive, everything is in doubt. If Hindus can be blamed, word it as an ASSERTION. Right!
You just proved my point about intolerance and racism against Indians and Hindus. If this is what Wikipedia is going to turn into, it is really sad.
I am open to an honest investigation into what happened by REALLY neutral people who will look at it in an objective fashion. Even the original entry which read "2002 Gujarat pogrom" proves my point because pogrom is a loaded term. You know that very well.
As I read more into this it is clear that the train fire was not an accident. Hindus on their way to a disputed religious site were indeed the victims in that incident. Although it is widely accepted that Muslims were responsible for that specific incident, no individuals have been caught and prosecuted. It is also apparent that most of the rioting that followed was instigated by Hindu mobs, but not exclusively so. Most of the between 2,000 and 2,500 deaths that resulted were Muslims. Gujarat is awash with extremists of all kinds. It shares a border with Pakistan, and claims of Pakistani involvement in the unrest have been very common.
The Comunists are not very strong in Gujarat, and the two Communist parties only had a handful of token candidates in the last state election. Nationalist and religious issues are far more significant inGujarat. There is no denying Iyer's communist background, and his participation in an elected state in relatively far away Kerala in 1957 (i.e. 45 years earlier). His communist background has no relevance to the incidents in Gujarat
Ec
libertarian wrote:
I am open to an honest investigation into what happened by REALLY neutral people who will look at it in an objective fashion. Even the original entry which read "2002 Gujarat pogrom" proves my point because pogrom is a loaded term. You know that very well.
How about http://www.ploughshares.ca/CONTENT/ACR/ACR00/ACR00-IndiaGujarat.html
Ec
Fred Bauder [mailto: fredbaud@ctelco.net]
It is not at all clear that the fire was anything but accident.
In short, if Hindus were roasted alive, everything is in doubt. If Hindus can be blamed, word it as an ASSERTION. Right!
You just proved my point about intolerance and racism against Indians and Hindus. If this is what Wikipedia is going to turn into, it is really sad.
I am open to an honest investigation into what happened by REALLY neutral people who will look at it in an objective fashion. Even the original entry which read "2002 Gujarat pogrom" proves my point because pogrom is a loaded term. You know that very well.
-a
One point. The Muslims in India are Indians.
Another, I am not an expert on this matter, but it seems everyone jumped to conclusions when the incident was first reported and acted accordingly, with baleful results. It is good to look back and investigate but the evil is in the prejudice on both sides which was triggered by whatever happened. Just what in the hell do you want?, Another partition?
Fred