Re:
"To help SlimVirgin: * Stalkers and other abusers tend to go after the vulnerable, and part of vulnerability is social isolation. By being supportive, we reduce the chance that this particular case of stalking will become a violent one. And no, I'm not saying that Daniel Brandt et. al. are the violent type, in fact I do not believe they are, but the information which may or may not be true has been released to many. If it's true, all it takes is one nut to read that and hunt SlimVirgin down, and this could become much worse. By the time you know the danger you are in, it is often too late. You hear the sound of someone entering downstairs... door opening and closing... footsteps... and then the voice of the man you fear. You don't believe you could run out past him. There are no ladders to escape out the window." (snip)
Oh cut it out. ArmedBlowfish, you're feeding into a stereotype. The trolls have tried some very similar tactics with me, perhaps in part because the editors at *Search Engine Land* changed a line in my bio without asking me. I won't confirm or deny whether the trolls got it right, but I read your description and laugh *pity the fool who tries that*. I'm a war veteran. I've owned a Harley-Davidson and I've handled live rattlesnakes and I've saved an apartment building from burning down. I've even survived being struck by lightning.
It's Slim's choice what to do. She isn't asking for your advice and I'm not asking either. We're adults and we're quite capable of choosing for ourselves.
-Durova
On 02/08/07, Durova nadezhda.durova@gmail.com wrote:
Re:
"To help SlimVirgin:
- Stalkers and other abusers tend to go after the vulnerable, and part
of vulnerability is social isolation. By being supportive, we reduce the chance that this particular case of stalking will become a violent one. And no, I'm not saying that Daniel Brandt et. al. are the violent type, in fact I do not believe they are, but the information which may or may not be true has been released to many. If it's true, all it takes is one nut to read that and hunt SlimVirgin down, and this could become much worse. By the time you know the danger you are in, it is often too late. You hear the sound of someone entering downstairs... door opening and closing... footsteps... and then the voice of the man you fear. You don't believe you could run out past him. There are no ladders to escape out the window." (snip)
Oh cut it out. ArmedBlowfish, you're feeding into a stereotype. The trolls have tried some very similar tactics with me, perhaps in part because the editors at *Search Engine Land* changed a line in my bio without asking me. I won't confirm or deny whether the trolls got it right, but I read your description and laugh *pity the fool who tries that*. I'm a war veteran. I've owned a Harley-Davidson and I've handled live rattlesnakes and I've saved an apartment building from burning down. I've even survived being struck by lightning.
What are you talking about? The windows? Sure, some people could probably have made themselves a rope on the spot. Some people probably wouldn't have been afraid to jump out and risk the broken bones. But I wasn't one of those people.
It's Slim's choice what to do. She isn't asking for your advice and I'm not asking either. We're adults and we're quite capable of choosing for ourselves.
-Durova
If SlimVirgin is bothered by what I am saying, I might be mistaken, but I don't think she'd be afraid to tell me.
Armed Blowfish
On 02/08/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
On 02/08/07, Durova nadezhda.durova@gmail.com wrote:
Re:
"To help SlimVirgin:
- Stalkers and other abusers tend to go after the vulnerable, and part
of vulnerability is social isolation. By being supportive, we reduce the chance that this particular case of stalking will become a violent one. And no, I'm not saying that Daniel Brandt et. al. are the violent type, in fact I do not believe they are, but the information which may or may not be true has been released to many. If it's true, all it takes is one nut to read that and hunt SlimVirgin down, and this could become much worse. By the time you know the danger you are in, it is often too late. You hear the sound of someone entering downstairs... door opening and closing... footsteps... and then the voice of the man you fear. You don't believe you could run out past him. There are no ladders to escape out the window." (snip)
Oh cut it out. ArmedBlowfish, you're feeding into a stereotype. The
trolls
have tried some very similar tactics with me, perhaps in part because
the
editors at *Search Engine Land* changed a line in my bio without asking
me.
I won't confirm or deny whether the trolls got it right, but I read your description and laugh *pity the fool who tries that*. I'm a war
veteran.
I've owned a Harley-Davidson and I've handled live rattlesnakes and I've saved an apartment building from burning down. I've even survived being struck by lightning.
What are you talking about? The windows? Sure, some people could probably have made themselves a rope on the spot. Some people probably wouldn't have been afraid to jump out and risk the broken bones. But I wasn't one of those people.
It's Slim's choice what to do. She isn't asking for your advice and I'm
not
asking either. We're adults and we're quite capable of choosing for ourselves.
-Durova
If SlimVirgin is bothered by what I am saying, I might be mistaken, but I don't think she'd be afraid to tell me.
Armed Blowfish
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I think what you're saying is ridiculous and far-fetched and I wish you'd stop posting this crap to the mailing lists.
What parts are ridiculous and far-fetched?
That memory was a real one. Mine.
Armed Blowfish
On 02/08/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/08/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
On 02/08/07, Durova nadezhda.durova@gmail.com wrote:
Re:
"To help SlimVirgin:
- Stalkers and other abusers tend to go after the vulnerable, and part
of vulnerability is social isolation. By being supportive, we reduce the chance that this particular case of stalking will become a violent one. And no, I'm not saying that Daniel Brandt et. al. are the violent type, in fact I do not believe they are, but the information which may or may not be true has been released to many. If it's true, all it takes is one nut to read that and hunt SlimVirgin down, and this could become much worse. By the time you know the danger you are in, it is often too late. You hear the sound of someone entering downstairs... door opening and closing... footsteps... and then the voice of the man you fear. You don't believe you could run out past him. There are no ladders to escape out the window." (snip)
Oh cut it out. ArmedBlowfish, you're feeding into a stereotype. The
trolls
have tried some very similar tactics with me, perhaps in part because
the
editors at *Search Engine Land* changed a line in my bio without asking
me.
I won't confirm or deny whether the trolls got it right, but I read your description and laugh *pity the fool who tries that*. I'm a war
veteran.
I've owned a Harley-Davidson and I've handled live rattlesnakes and I've saved an apartment building from burning down. I've even survived being struck by lightning.
What are you talking about? The windows? Sure, some people could probably have made themselves a rope on the spot. Some people probably wouldn't have been afraid to jump out and risk the broken bones. But I wasn't one of those people.
It's Slim's choice what to do. She isn't asking for your advice and I'm
not
asking either. We're adults and we're quite capable of choosing for ourselves.
-Durova
If SlimVirgin is bothered by what I am saying, I might be mistaken, but I don't think she'd be afraid to tell me.
Armed Blowfish
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I think what you're saying is ridiculous and far-fetched and I wish you'd stop posting this crap to the mailing lists. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
On 02/08/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
What parts are ridiculous and far-fetched?
That memory was a real one. Mine.
Armed Blowfish
On 02/08/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/08/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
On 02/08/07, Durova nadezhda.durova@gmail.com wrote:
Re:
"To help SlimVirgin:
- Stalkers and other abusers tend to go after the vulnerable, and
part
of vulnerability is social isolation. By being supportive, we
reduce
the chance that this particular case of stalking will become a
violent
one. And no, I'm not saying that Daniel Brandt et. al. are the violent type, in fact I do not believe they are, but the information which may or may not be true has been released to many. If it's
true,
all it takes is one nut to read that and hunt SlimVirgin down, and this could become much worse. By the time you know the danger you
are
in, it is often too late. You hear the sound of someone entering downstairs... door opening and closing... footsteps... and then the voice of the man you fear. You don't believe you could run out past him. There are no ladders to escape out the window." (snip)
Oh cut it out. ArmedBlowfish, you're feeding into a
stereotype. The
trolls
have tried some very similar tactics with me, perhaps in part
because
the
editors at *Search Engine Land* changed a line in my bio without
asking
me.
I won't confirm or deny whether the trolls got it right, but I read
your
description and laugh *pity the fool who tries that*. I'm a war
veteran.
I've owned a Harley-Davidson and I've handled live rattlesnakes and
I've
saved an apartment building from burning down. I've even survived
being
struck by lightning.
What are you talking about? The windows? Sure, some people could probably have made themselves a rope on the spot. Some people probably wouldn't have been afraid to jump out and risk the broken bones. But I wasn't one of those people.
It's Slim's choice what to do. She isn't asking for your advice and
I'm
not
asking either. We're adults and we're quite capable of choosing for ourselves.
-Durova
If SlimVirgin is bothered by what I am saying, I might be mistaken, but I don't think she'd be afraid to tell me.
Armed Blowfish
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I think what you're saying is ridiculous and far-fetched and I wish
you'd
stop posting this crap to the mailing lists. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
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It's ridiculous that you're resorting to this level of emotional blackmail to try and get your way. What is even your point? No one's threatening SV and no one's trying to blame her for being attacked. This entire thing is incredibly irrelevant and doesn't have anything to do with the topic that's being discussed.
WikiEN-l has made me laugh so hard over the past few days.
That isn't emotional blackmail. I was beaten and molested, more than once, and while there are a dozen if onlys that could have prevented it... none of them worked. It happened anyway, in spite of my best effort to prevent it.
There were people who said she left traces... that she wouldn't have been outed if she had been more careful. It reminds me of when people are blamed for being raped because they were drinking. Being careful is good, but carelessness doesn't mean you deserve to be attacked.
If the outing had some degree of accuracy, then she is in real danger of physical attack. And either way, what is wrong with sparing someone some emotional pain? Blanking, deleting, and oversighting things is not necessarily an insult to those who write them. People often don't know what they write is hurtful. It can be explained by e-mail, assuming they have e-mail enabled.
Armed Blowfish
On 02/08/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/08/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
What parts are ridiculous and far-fetched?
That memory was a real one. Mine.
Armed Blowfish
On 02/08/07, Vee vee.be.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/08/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
On 02/08/07, Durova nadezhda.durova@gmail.com wrote:
Re:
"To help SlimVirgin:
- Stalkers and other abusers tend to go after the vulnerable, and
part
of vulnerability is social isolation. By being supportive, we
reduce
the chance that this particular case of stalking will become a
violent
one. And no, I'm not saying that Daniel Brandt et. al. are the violent type, in fact I do not believe they are, but the information which may or may not be true has been released to many. If it's
true,
all it takes is one nut to read that and hunt SlimVirgin down, and this could become much worse. By the time you know the danger you
are
in, it is often too late. You hear the sound of someone entering downstairs... door opening and closing... footsteps... and then the voice of the man you fear. You don't believe you could run out past him. There are no ladders to escape out the window." (snip)
Oh cut it out. ArmedBlowfish, you're feeding into a
stereotype. The
trolls
have tried some very similar tactics with me, perhaps in part
because
the
editors at *Search Engine Land* changed a line in my bio without
asking
me.
I won't confirm or deny whether the trolls got it right, but I read
your
description and laugh *pity the fool who tries that*. I'm a war
veteran.
I've owned a Harley-Davidson and I've handled live rattlesnakes and
I've
saved an apartment building from burning down. I've even survived
being
struck by lightning.
What are you talking about? The windows? Sure, some people could probably have made themselves a rope on the spot. Some people probably wouldn't have been afraid to jump out and risk the broken bones. But I wasn't one of those people.
It's Slim's choice what to do. She isn't asking for your advice and
I'm
not
asking either. We're adults and we're quite capable of choosing for ourselves.
-Durova
If SlimVirgin is bothered by what I am saying, I might be mistaken, but I don't think she'd be afraid to tell me.
Armed Blowfish
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I think what you're saying is ridiculous and far-fetched and I wish
you'd
stop posting this crap to the mailing lists. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
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It's ridiculous that you're resorting to this level of emotional blackmail to try and get your way. What is even your point? No one's threatening SV and no one's trying to blame her for being attacked. This entire thing is incredibly irrelevant and doesn't have anything to do with the topic that's being discussed.
WikiEN-l has made me laugh so hard over the past few days. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l